So if the drive side spokes have higher tension, why are the washers put on 
the non-drive side spokes? Again, makes no sense to me.

Laing

On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:20:40 AM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
The drive side still has higher tension, and the way to get durable wheels 
is to get high tension without cracking the rim. The washers spread the 
load of the spoke nipple over a wider area and prevents the rim from 
cracking. With lowish spoke count wheels and dished wheels, you can easily 
exceed the rim's cracking threshold.

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 4:27 AM lconley <lco...@brph.com> wrote:
So if the spoke tension is equal on both sides, why would one side need 
washers? Makes no sense to me.

Laing

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:44:22 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
I would consider Ted Neugent's wheels: 
http://www.neugentcycling.com/Alloy-Wheels.html

The TwoX technology (16 drive side spokes, 8 non-drive side spokes so you 
can have equal tension of spokes on both sides, with washers on the 
non-drive side so you can tension them safely without the rim cracking) 
makes a lot of sense to me. I've ordered a set and will report back when I 
get some real riding experience. I build my own wheels and they're reliable 
but his approach makes sense and he has the scale to get the right parts 
drilled correctly in this case, and I can't build anything  as light.

On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:18:22 PM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey there group,  

As far as pre-built, lightweight alloy wheelsets are concerned, I'm 
currently looking at 3: 
Pacenti brevet, Ritchey Zeta II classic, and Hunt but leaning towards the 
last 2. I've had experience with Ritchey's and really enjoyed them and 
their clever J-bend design, but Hunt's are better stocked. Does anyone have 
positive experience with Hunt wheels or do they lack longevity? 

I'd also be inclined to hear about your custom-built lightweight wheelset 
experiences. My goal weight is something in the 1600g range w/ skewers.  

Cheers, 
Andrew

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