Keith: They're not as good as the ones polished at Paul. Mine are good 
enough for me. Not sure why there's a slightly uneven surface (kinda 
pitted!) on the black ones. 

Brendon: Got the video roughed in today, it's about 75% done. 

Tom: See my link above to the previous thread on de-anodizing. 

Laing makes a good point, sometimes stuff isn't available in the finish you 
want. 

Also, Laing: The beauty of the brass is the deep patina! 

I already had the Paul brakes, purchased used. I was interested to learn a 
new process rather than purchase more parts. I much prefer the finish of a 
component that's gone from polished to dull rather than the dull/clear 
anodizing from Paul. And black parts aren't for me, though I picked some up 
years ago before my tastes and opinions had developed. For me it's not 
about having and maintaining a perfect finish. 

Eliot: You could likely clear coat or wax your parts to add a little 
resistance to the finish. If you call Paul and ask how they seal their 
polished parts I'm sure they'll tell you. With enough use and exposure all 
polished stuff dulls over time, hence this group and the iBOBs' interest in 
Simichrome and other metal polishes for older bicycle parts. 



On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 7:17:33 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can you get the finished product clear coated to help with longevity?
>
> How does Paul treat their factory polished version ?
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 1:03 PM lconley <lco...@brph.com> wrote:
>
>> You are assuming that all anodized parts are available without anodizing, 
>> which it not true for all parts. 
>>
>> Note that most colored anodizing is temporary also, the anodizing fades 
>> over time. Easy and cheap to restore polished parts, anodized parts - not 
>> so much.
>>
>> Black parts show wear and scratches much more than silver.
>>
>> Even the best silver/clear anodizing wears off. I have a well used 50 
>> year old Campagnolo triple crank that has lost its anodizing in many 
>> locations, I am sure glad that it isn't black, it would look awful.
>>
>> I would not consider polished aluminum parts high maintenance, many go 
>> for years before needing a quick rub with Simichrome and then they are like 
>> new.
>>
>> You want a high maintenance finish - I have a set of brass Honjo fenders 
>> for you. One end of the fender tarnishes as you are polishing the other end.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 1:43:14 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I’m with Garth - if you’ve got anodized parts you’d like to make silver… 
>>> arrange a trade!
>>>
>>> Philip
>>>  
>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 7:29:05 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> While I don't have any Paul brakes, over Life I've had plenty of 
>>>> aluminum parts that were of a natural, untreated finish. You can polish 
>>>> them all you like, but it doesn't last every long until they require more 
>>>> polishing. The polishing is an attempt to seal the exterior, to create a 
>>>> "buffer" from the elements, so to speak. It's high maintenance for sure as 
>>>> it's only temporary.  The durable hard anodizing manufacturers use is a 
>>>> chemical process and as long they're not exposed to excessive corrosive 
>>>> elements the finish remains indefinitely. Once that finish is removed, 
>>>> there's no going back, they are back to their natural untreated state. A 
>>>> sure way to tell the finish of any aluminum part is to rub it with a clean 
>>>> rag or even your hands as it will leave that telltale gray residue. 
>>>>
>>>> As far as I'm concerned if a part is finished black, or anodized a dull 
>>>> silver, I leave it alone, or don't buy it in the first place if I can't 
>>>> live it as purchased. There can be a few exceptions, notably if it's 
>>>> something tiny. Surely though, I see black and silver parts as 
>>>> complimentary rather than conflicting. 
>>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 6:41:43 PM UTC-5 brendonoid wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *"The other set of cantis are on a new build I just finished."*
>>>>>
>>>>> Whoa, hold up! What a teaser, I can't wait.
>>>>>
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