I’ve definitely watched that one a few times.:)
Sent from my iPhone On Feb 22, 2023, at 3:46 PM, greenteadrinkers <greenteadrink...@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting... was just watching a video via Radavist called "Rivendell Susie Longbolts/Wolbis Slugstone (First Ride) @ Marshall Canyon" at around 6 min 30 seconds in the rider has to stop and tighten his quill 4-bolt face plater and manages to break one of the bolts! Looks like the stem is paired with a Losco. Gotta love the "You guys have beach cruisers" comment from a passerby. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbD6sgowP58&t=407s
On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 3:14:35 PM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:
Looks great! BL does a really nice job with the spacers. Would be super cool to see a quill version of the V5.
My Bluelug package arrived yesterday - a day early - in great shape and no missing items. I think it was 4 days, maybe 5. Happy & stunned. ![image0.jpeg]() Sent from my iPhone Watch out - ordering from blue lug can become a problem. The first order shows up in 4 days. The next thing you know you have another package coming with "just a few more parts to finish the build".
DHL is a bit weird on their brokerage as they charge a flat rate fee for their time which is a bit annoying, but not the worst. They are also extremely reliable and great for scheduling delivery and drop offs. Paying fees online etc.
I find their prices are fantastic for items manufactured in Japan. You get to avoid paying the shop price markup on them importing the item. You just pay shipping+ brokerage yourself with no mark up. Plus they just have tons of lovely small detailed items like bolt covers, reflectors, nets, etc that are difficult to find in other places.
I found circles to have lower shipping rates and lightening fast service. I am in zip 59808 (Montana) and 4 days from order to delivery..On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 8:08:36 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:
The few times I've placed orders with BL have been easy with very fast shipping. If you give feedback about the site's performance they usually add a bunch of cool stickers.
Well that was easy. I’ve been reluctant to order any bike parts from out of the country, not sure why. But I pulled the trigger yesterday on a V5 & appropriate spacers from Bluelug. A very user friendly website & reasonable shipping. Estimated delivery next week! Not sure if there will be any additional fees? Sent from my iPhone Just mounted a Billie bar to my V5, I would say both Choco, and Billie bars are compatible. Regarding the Bosco Bullmoose, I agree with Keith's comment above. Below, is the Billie bar with the V5. Also, a few details show the space between the stem and the front cap of the stem, looking at images at Blue Lug, there is no gap, guessing that's not a big issue, but thought I'd point it out. The bolt extends outside of the rear port, so there's no loss in bolt length. Wow, wonder how much ($$$) a modern remake of the Slingshot would cost? <IMG-9813.jpg> <IMG-9816.jpg> <IMG-9818.jpg>
On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 1:46:18 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 12:14:57 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
Interesting; I just glommed on the V5, which I'd not seen before. It seems to be a good design for bars where the moment of force is relatively high, like many of the current Rivendell bars.
Curious: I can see how a Technomic would be wholly overwhelmed by a Bosco. But what about a wide-faced, 4-bolt single-clamp stem? The only examples of these last are the Ritchey 4-bolt faceplate threadless stems I have on 2 bikes, but I wonder if these might hold a Bosco in place firmly without requiring over tightening of the bolts?
This is not an idle question; I may try a bosco or tosco or some other such long sweepback bar on the Monocog 29er, and I'd not want to have to buy a new V5 stem as well as a new, expensive, bar.
Patrick, just in case it isn't clear: The V5 stem probably only works with Nitto-made bars. The Tosco, even in the narrower 25.4 versions, lack the long sleeve swaged onto the clamp area. On nitto bars, i know it works with the Bosco, but I think it might even be worth double checking to make sure the sleeve is long enough on the Billie, Chaco, Wavie, etc. Starting with the Billie bar, Nitto adopted a new manufacturing method that combined a bulged section WITH a sleeve. For the Bosco and older models, the clamp diameter was made up entirely with a swaged sleeve - like their drop bars.
Regarding clamp force: Ive experimented with boscos quite a bit. I found a steel, ritchey force stem with a broad clamp surface, to be adequate, even with a single bolt. I was eventually able to get them to work in a technomic stem, and not slip after tightening enough, but found this unsatisfactory for another reason. The aluminum bars flex in a torsional way, and the narrower clamp width exacerbated this. I think this anti-torsion characteristic of wide clamps would be the best part of the V5 stem.
Ultimately, I found the steel bullmoose version to be the only Bosco I can use - despite wishing the angle was different (I wish the ends angled down more). The steel is less flexy and the effective stem length is 150mm which is still barely long enough. It's hard to find long stems these days. (This is the problem with the OG slingshot stems, especially. I have one in my parts bin and keep hoping to use it, but it never works. I'll eventually get custom bars for it.)
All of this became moot for me, once the Tosco came out. It offers all of the bosco benefits while fixing most of its flaws. But, as I noted, it won't work with the V5 stem unfortunately. I love the V5, here are some pictures of the v5 with a Choco on my Moonshiner. If I was going to use a non-moose Bosco on a Gus, I would only use a v5, I had a non-moose Bosco with a Technomic on my Sam, and had to use a shim, the bar would slip unless I tightened the stem as hard down as absolutely possible. Now I have a Bosco Moose on the Sam, perfection! So... 100% no go Bosco/Technomic for off-road roughstuff unless mated with a v5, I say this from experience. An aside, if you order a v5 from Blue Lug check out the brass spacers or the Nitto spacers, both are fabricated to mate perfectly with the v5.
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