Thanks for the geometry chart Garth. The 58 size details on that seem to line up best with what I have. And thanks for the info on how the frames are measured, Eric. Good to know it's C-T instead of C-C. Definitely clears up some confusion with the measurements.
I'm tinkering with the configuration and installing set of drop bars is now on the list. I better get some back stretches in too, ha! On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:31:20 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Jeffrey — How are you measuring? Rivendell measures from center of the > bottom bracket spindle to the top of the seat lug (at the low point, if it > swoops down) like shown in the picture below. > > Grab your metric tape and get measuring! > > [image: Screenshot 2023-03-05 at 8.23.45 PM.png] > > On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 1:58:43 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote: > >> 2016 chart with stack heights and reach. The 62 doesn't offer much in the >> way of extra reach, 1 cm, but at least the stack height goes up >> commensurate with the taller frame. 2.4cm of extra front-center. >> >> It's not necessarily that the 58 is too small for you, that depends on >> your saddle position, reach and height to the bars where your hands will >> be, and your flexibility/core strength to comfortably ride in said >> position. You just can't dumb it down to cliche's and size charts and >> expect it to fit anyone but by dumb luck. If you're buying a bike like that >> it's highly likely you already own a bike of some kind. Use that as a >> comparison tool. It may be the Sam doesn't fit a buyer in any size, not >> enough reach, for example. Riv road frames doesn't have a lot of it. >> >> >> So as mentioned, you may as well try a drop bar with your 58. If you use >> a quill stem adapter and zero or plus 6-10 degree rise stem you'll get >> enough height. With a negative rise stem on a small frame ..... that's >> counterproductive. >> >> And that's the story for today .. yippee ! >> [image: RivGeoChart_2016_2048x2048.jpg] >> >> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 10:50:53 AM UTC-5 Jeffery S wrote: >> >>> All good, I have the same questions about fit I guess. That is a >>> handsome ride, those red accents are a nice contrast with the frame. >>> >>> Saddle height measures 81.5 cm and the crank is 175. I commute in boots >>> with a little thicker sole than sneakers. >>> Here's a photo from the web of a 58cm in black w/ cream head tube. Doing >>> a quick photoshop overlay does match up with with mine. >>> >>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 9:39:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote: >>> >>>> What I meant to say in my pointless ramble there is that there is >>>> nothing about your PBH that suggests a 58cm Sam is too small for you. But >>>> that saddle height makes me wonder... >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/38708c9c-65a1-4bbe-954a-e0bbbe77400an%40googlegroups.com.