My sense with Rivs is that Grant builds bikes for how he likes to ride, and on his local terrain. That sounds selfish and limited in a sense, but I think it's what makes the bikes so great too - they're not trying to find some balance for all sorts of different scenarios, so they're afforded the freedom to really live up to their potential.
While I've never ridden with Grant, he doesn't strike me as the stand-and-mash type :) Those long stays with a spinny gear are a joy to climb with, even with the relatively slack STA, but like you say, it kind of goes against our reflexes coming from things like fixed gear bikes and the like. I rode Loscos for a bit and they were a lot more ergonomic to hold further forward when climbing out of saddle vs a Bosco, while still giving the same cruising position (with more stem height). Good bars but I am long torso'd so they didn't work for me. Sorry to say I don't have them anymore - but you should try this Billie on my wall ;) On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 10:40:15 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > I think your question was clear! My custom with Boscos feels great for > sitting and spinning up a hill, if I get to a place where I need to stand I > prefer getting off and walking for a minute. There's one route to the > market and back here where I always walk one steep part and it's become my > walk-and-ride, I enjoy it! > > On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 9:51:01 AM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote: > >> I guess I should have made a disclaimer I am not looking for tips on fit >> or technique. As Patrick mentioned I am just actually generally interested >> in your physical adaptation of physical technique with evolving bicycle >> geometry. >> >> I love the clementine. It's the best climbing bike ive owned, and the >> fore - aft gives a lot of position variety. I am not going to gain any >> KOM's but I love the stability and traction for steep and loose climbing vs >> normal geometry. >> >> with my sized up clem jr i do find more ability to stand, but dont feel >> strongly it's necessarily better for climbing, but its kind of comparing >> oranges and grapefruits. >> >> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 2:48:46 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Hi Mackenzy — I find it uncomfortable to pedal out of the saddle for >>> more than a few strokes with my hands in the primary grip position on swept >>> back bars. With a grip in the 'hooks' of the bars on Albatross, Billie or >>> Ron's Ortho bars it's no problem for me. I've installed Boscos on a bike I >>> built up for a friend and found that the secondary or hooks position ahead >>> of the levers was not very good for climbing or spirited riding. >>> >>> I would think given the height of your bars, the tilt of your bars >>> making the grip almost parallel with the ground and the general shape of >>> Boscos that climbing out of the saddle would be uncomfortable and a little >>> unnatural. >>> >>> I see you have your stem pretty low, do you wish for lower bars? If so >>> you might consider the Losco or the Billie, they're both plenty wide with >>> lots of sweep back but much less rise. >>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 3:08:56 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Damon - It's a Nitto UI-12 quill stem. This is a welded cromo, -19 >>>> deg, 31.8 clamp, removeable faceplate stem. Not quite as nice and >>>> definitely not as tall as the brazed Nitto faceplate stems (CR60-3F) that >>>> Riv stocks, but my fit didn't need the extra height and I liked the look >>>> and reach of a horizontal stem extension. >>>> >>>> I've attached a closeup photo of the stem and bars (taken during the >>>> build, before the shifters were cabled). Note the stem height is just >>>> about >>>> max'd where I have it and many will want something with more rise. >>>> >>>> -Dave >>>> >>>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 12:21:48 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have not felt comfortable standing on the pedals in many years. I >>>>> sit and spin regardless of the type of bike. On a single speed, I will >>>>> dismount and walk when the slope is too steep - not often the case in >>>>> Florida. >>>>> >>>>> I seem to remember a top cyclist from years ago advocating for sitting >>>>> and spinning, but I cannot remember who it was. >>>>> >>>>> Laing >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/afabdefc-1e13-47d2-b8c9-4a8e31c01a5cn%40googlegroups.com.
