CUES has a 2x option.

Eric
who doesn't miss the front derailleur at all

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 8:22 AM ascpgh <asc....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Somewhere in the last two days I read something roughly this: "I tried to
> ditch front derailleurs on my road bike but they just work so well."
> Perhaps from one of the bike topic digest emails I get daily but oh so
> true. I solved my FD needs on my newest 2x bike with an NOS SunTour Superbe
> Pro from the mid '80s. Fit and worked better than all of the current FDs
> from three makers.
>
> When I see the size of those cassettes and necessity for expensive
> materials to keep their weight appropriate, RDs requiring clutches and
> reduced compatibility of shifters, it rekindles the thought that my 2x road
> drivetrains are pretty good. They are simple, elegant and yet
> sophisticated, durable and light. Above all I am not perplexed by their
> operation, adjustment or maintenance. i'm not going change what works for
> me, the struggle to reach that point had many lessons both near and far
> from home or a sag call.
>
> What seems simple (1x) sometimes comes with great complexity once details
> start being ironed out. I'm not a fan of the complete component group
> drivetrain sales to volume manufacturers targeting new or newer cyclists
> being the driving standard. They are telling the experienced cyclist that
> they don't matter to them.
>
> Shimano sales were down 17% in 2022, forecast to be down 22% in 2023.
> How's that model working out for them? CUES is their response. Hope they
> start considering the dedicated,, experienced cyclists a bit more.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 1:04:45 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I had a nice 1x and wanted slightly lower gears for some crazy hills
>> around here, but didn't want to lose the already relatively low top end so
>> mashed some parts together and this is the result.
>>
>> Starting point: SRAM Rival 1 (with clutch) rear derailer, I believe the
>> largest cog this is supposed to handle is 42t. I added a Garbaruk cage and
>> pulleys and it shifts a SunRace 11-50 11-spd cassette with a SRAM Apex
>> trigger shifter. The front is a Sugino XD crank with 34t chainring.
>>
>> Ok what happens if I want double rings? The manufacturer stuff says I
>> can't use a 1x derailer (I don't know why) so I thought I would cheat a
>> little and make it kind of two 1x's by adding a 30t inner ring, Shimano
>> Deore (DynaSys 10-spd double) FD and a Silver2 thumbshifter on the stem. It
>> works!
>>
>> Ok it doesn't work completely fabulously yet, the downshift to the small
>> ring doesn't always take and I still have some fiddling to do but overall
>> the bike works well for me using all of the gears in the 30t plus grabbing
>> the top 2 or 3 in the 34t on occasion, and sometimes just staying in the
>> 34t like before. It's not a massive increase in gear range, I think of it
>> as an expanded 1x.
>>
>> Does it make sense? I don't know, maybe this can be duplicated by ye old
>> triple drivetrains with 11-36 cassettes but I don't like triples. I like
>> this!
>>
>> Joe "tried to ditch front derailers, ended up with a front derailer
>> again" Bernard
>>
>> [image: Screenshot_20230429_211431.jpg][image:
>> Screenshot_20230429_211411.jpg]
>>
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