Was there ever a Waterford Atlantis? How can one tell the difference between a Toyo Atlantis and any others? ie, is the 'pointy' lugged Atlantis Toyo built?
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 4:22:39 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote: > I don't have an atlantis - but for a long time rode a crust romancuer, > which was somewhat based off the old atlantis's. I thought it was the bees > knees for a long time, but never felt right *for me* especially while > trying to use upright bars. It felt amazing with drops however. Due to neck > injuries and unable to set the bike up in it's best form decided to trade > my Romanceur for a Clementine. It is a day and night difference of ride > with boscos and long top tube and wheelbase. > > My summarization would be: > > For drop bar setup - an older atlantis would be nice. There are a more > similar bikes available like the older atlantis frames. AKA large tire > clearance touring bikes. Bassi Le Montreal, Crust Romancuer, etc. > > For upright bars - the long wheelbase and top tube rivs truly shine in > their comfort, performance, and handling. I don't think there are a lot of > bikes out there outside of rivendell with similar wheelbase and handling > characteristics. I get a bit annoyed with the constant rebuttal that > "they're just over priced 80's mountain bikes" - but they took everything > good about 80s mountain bikes and improved it. Longer wheelbases and top > tubes. Better steering geometry. Higher head tubes. More clearance for > larger tires. Lots of braze on options for racks and bags. etc. > > On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:32:06 AM UTC-7 Ken Yokanovich wrote: > >> I have a 61cm Toyo-built Atlantis. I had not ridden the bike for about 3 >> years due to some unexpected life change circumstances and then a >> repaint/rebuild. I also have a latest-generation 57cm Appaloosa that I have >> owned and ridden during those 3 years for recreation, errands, and >> commuting. The current generation MIT Atlantis is very similar to >> Appaloosa. I recently got the Atlantis back from a repaint, and it has >> been fun to compare the two bikes. >> >> Atlantis >> I have ridden this bike for recreation, commuting, and have done several >> loaded tours on it. I like it a lot, I *don't LOVE* it. At least not for >> recreational riding. I tend to grab something else when it's time to go >> play. (I also own Rivendell: Custom - All Rounder, Custom - Road, Frank >> Jones, HubbuHubbuH, Platypus) Tire widths have ranged 35-48mm. It seems to >> handle a lot better with the wider tires, particularly when descending >> hills on gravel. It *IS *my go to bike for loaded touring and when I >> travel. (This is a weird combination of opposing purposes that I am >> constantly struggling with.) I prefer the position of drop bars and >> appreciate multiple hand options for multi-day rides and long hours in the >> saddle. The more "aerodynamic" position is something MUCH appreciated for >> those eventual day-long headwinds. The bike does have toe overlap with the >> fenders, but this has never been a big deal for me. For the most part, I >> would have a hard time telling you which of my bikes did/didn't. >> [image: Atlantis Full.png] >> >> Appaloosa >> I bought the Appaloosa as the keep-handy grab-n-go bike. My confidence in >> upright handlebars was bolstered by the experience of riding and touring on >> the HubbuHubbuH. I like the Bosco bars way more than I expected I ever >> would. I keep the Appaloosa parked in front of the car making it an easy >> choice for errands and commuting. Unexpectedly, I have found myself riding >> the Appaloosa for recreation too. The bike rides much "lighter" and >> "faster" than I expected it would. If I hadn't just got the Atlantis ready >> for summer touring, I would like to try taking the Appaloosa on a >> fully-loaded tour. I think the more casual ride mood that it inspires might >> encourage me to cut back on ambitious daily mileage goals when touring. >> [image: Appaloosa.png] >> >> Summary >> Both bikes provide a lot of enjoyment. If forced to choose between the >> Atlantis or Appaloosa, I would select the Appaloosa. >> What's next or what would I do differently? I have thought about buying >> another Appaloosa from the next batch and building it up for loaded touring >> so I could reconfigure the Atlantis for easier travel. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/77adf4d0-59e2-4faf-a495-b227f4b7d709n%40googlegroups.com.
