Old rigid mountain bikes were the original impetus for Clem H and L, too. All those '80s/'90s MTBs we were finding cheap on Craigslist quickly became frightfully expensive when we (definitely me) started replacing worn parts and adding ridable bars and stems, the new/cheaper TIG'd Rivendell was the "why don't you just buy a new bike with all the right parts" answer.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:42:21 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > Clem actually predates the Hillibike moniker. From my understanding, the > term originated with Gus / Susie because they were most akin to the > original mountain bikes that inspired them, but Rivendell didn’t want them > perceived as something meant for big jumps and drops and the kind of stuff > people typically do these days on a “mountain bike”. Since then, other > models like Clem and to some extent Joe have fallen into that category. > > On May 15, 2023, at 8:27 PM, Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Two biggest differences (in my opinion) between a Clem L and either a Gus > or Susie; the latter are not step through frames & they both have a > significantly higher bottom bracket than the Clem. I think the Clem is > accurately described as a “Hillibike”. Gus & Susie are legit mountain > bikes. Love them both! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 15, 2023, at 8:10 PM, ssimarsawhney <ssimar....@gmail.com> wrote: > > My guess would have been 1in threaded with thicker tubing, which feels > like a clem. > > Can someone speak a bit more about the differences between the two? > > On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:44:08 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> I don't think anyone said Susie and Clem are alike, we said Clem L covers >> the same territory. Gus is more specifically its own thing, there's no >> other Riv in the category. >> >> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:59:28 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote: >> >>> Owning both a Susie and a Clem, I do agree with Garth that they are >>> almost nothing alike. On the other hand, I guess I don't see as much >>> distinction between the Susie and the Gus as some do, and think of them as >>> interchangeable. Just slightly clunkier and stiffer tubing on one. >>> Assuming it will still have the not-quite-step-through swoopy top tube and >>> that lugs could be shared with Charlie, it would be hard to Imagine >>> Rivendell having a new set made for 1 1/8" threadless headtubes and larger >>> diameter downtubes, but who knows. It sounds like the scare of losing a >>> lug supplier has receded for now, too. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:24:58 PM UTC-6 Andrew Letton wrote: >>> >>>> The one feature that I see the Gus/Susie just begging for is a set of >>>> triple bottle bosses on the *rear* side of the seat tube. With those >>>> long chainstays, it seems the perfect place for another big (1 - 2 liter) >>>> waterbottle for those of us in hot, dry locations. >>>> cheers, >>>> Andrew in Sydney >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 02:35:56 AM GMT+10, Brian Turner < >>>> brok...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Does anyone know anything specific about this new Hillibike iteration >>>> scheduled for October? Care to make any speculations or predictions? >>>> According to the latest Riv IG post, it only says "lugged, green and dark >>>> gold". >>>> >>>> My main questions are: >>>> Will it have a straight top tube like the Platy / Roscoe Bubbe, or the >>>> nice graceful swoopy one like Gus / Susie / Charlie? >>>> >>>> 1" threaded or 1-1/8" threadless (like Gus)? >>>> >>>> Heavier tubing (like Gus), or lighter duty (like Susie)? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/98827d3d-de52-4822-8c00-5f685436c7f5n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/98827d3d-de52-4822-8c00-5f685436c7f5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6f387ba3-fbf9-4d8b-ac4e-9ea2dad3e26cn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6f387ba3-fbf9-4d8b-ac4e-9ea2dad3e26cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/A30594EA-930D-4AE2-8445-2ED1D56EE5AA%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/A30594EA-930D-4AE2-8445-2ED1D56EE5AA%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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