Leah,
I would LOVE to do a Clem ride. I wish geography wasn't a barrier but if we 
can get a few Clem riders in the same location that would be a blast! For 
the record, I was even riding a carbon road bike while being pushed up 
hill. Yes, it was humbling. lol
Doug

On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 4:37:38 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Doug, I laughed out loud. The guy pushing you! 😂 It’s so humbling, right? 
> We need to organize a Clem ride, which is where we’d be right at home. We’d 
> call it a Clems With Nothing To Prove Ride. 
>
> The terror of trying and failing to keep up at high speeds would be but a 
> distant memory.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 16, 2023, at 3:37 PM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was on a group ride with a fast rider years ago and tried to keep up 
> but could not. As I'm on his rear wheel and giving my last bit of effort 
> not to drop off the rider behind me screams "don't let him drop you!". My 
> heart and lungs just didn't have another gear so he did drop me. On another 
> day, on a steep incline a racer friend of mine told me not to get below 10 
> mph on the hill (seemed arbitrary to me...) but I could not manage to keep 
> that speed. He actually PUSHED me with one hand to keep me up to speed when 
> I slowed and to this day I am amazed he was pedaling his weight and some of 
> mine!!
>
>
> I am faster and find hills easier to climb on my 20 pound Wabi Thunder 
> than on my Clem. The Clem is more comfortable and would be the bike I would 
> keep if I could only have one.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 11:43:11 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I'd love to see a video of Leah suffering on the Platypus with handlbar 
>> streamers and white straw basket to keep up with the fast boys on carbon 
>> fiber. But good job, says someone whose fast days are long gone. 
>>
>> But Leah ought to be winner on the downhills. Long ago, as a spritely 
>> early 50-something, I rode with Gary "It was a bad year; only 9,000 miles" 
>> Blakely up the long Tramway climb. Downhill I continually pulled ahead 
>> because at 170 I weighed about 35 lb more than he. Bikes about the same (me 
>> #1 Riv custom, he refurbished -- by Mark Bulgier, IIRC -- Trek)
>>
>> 4 years ago I did  several rides with a group of engineers from Sandia 
>> labs, thanks to a friend who was then working there (he retired a couple of 
>> years ago). The others were all younger than I -- I would guess most in 
>> 3-0s and 40s with leader in early-mid 50s; I 64, friend 60 or 61 -- and 
>> rode derailleur bikes, mostly cf; I was on my '99 fixie gofast with 76" 
>> gear. 20, 30, and ??37? -- I bailed; see below -- rides. I bailed on the 
>> last one after facing a ~5 mile gradual uphill into Bernalillo with a 
>> headwind and gradually falling behind the group, tho' another rider very 
>> kindly shepherded me to the Bernalillo rest stop.
>>
>> But man, with the open road, tail wind, and downhill I was spinning out 
>> the 76" gear much of the way home.
>>
>> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 9:18 AM Brian Forsee <bmfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like you crushed it Leah! Way to get out of your comfort zone.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
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