Ted, glad to see you got an Appaloosa ordered. Do let us know how it all 
works out with the fit and the ride once you have it all built up!

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:46:29 AM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the info, Garth! So, apologies about the confusion in my last 
> email. I am on a bike tour this week and trying to do everything on my 
> phone leads to funny wording sometimes, not to mention the difficulty 
> constructing coherent thoughts with the brain fog from all day riding. I 
> did not mean to say they were “mostly identical”, you are correct, there is 
> quite a difference. However, considering that I needed a longer set back 
> seat post and very long stem on the LHT, the extra room should be a 
> welcomed difference and the end result of the fit should be mostly 
> identical using normal-ish parts (standard set back and reasonable length 
> stem). I was able to use the LHT as a reference for how the Appa would fit 
> in relation to something I had experience with, despite their differences 
> and that’s teLly what I was trying to figure out. The last thing I wanted 
> to do was wind up with something that was severally out of whack to where I 
> wouldn’t enjoy such an otherwise lovely bike.
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 8:48 AM Garth <gart...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ted, Origin8 makes a "Pro Fit"  zero setback 26.8 silver seatpost. (365 
>> Cycles sells them) I don't know about the quality of the hardware. I'm 
>> mainly referring to the bolts and the length of the clamp itself as to how 
>> long it holds the rails. Kalloy for example, sucks !  Nitto and Thomson 
>> make them in 26.8 for more money but have proper clamps and stout bolts. 
>> This will allow you to get your saddle positioned over the BB where you 
>> need it. *This positioning comes first*, before any consideration of 
>> reach to the bars. 
>>
>> By the way, the STA and HTA are anything but nearly identical ! The 
>> difference between 71.5d and 73d in seat angle = appx. 18mm further back of 
>> the seat tube at saddle height. The 72d and 71d HTA means the Appa bars 
>> don't move back as much as they do with the shallower LHT. This is where 
>> when comparing frames you must look at everything in relation with 
>> everything else. I'm assuming these two frames : 
>>
>> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=646ed3ba6c60a90021cb6aa4,5f5e45837fbbda0017192063
>>
>> You can input things here https://www.bikegeocalc.com/ if you really 
>> want to see how things change. It's sorta geeky, but you catch on how it 
>> works. It beats buying the wrong frame though. 
>>
>> I've edited this so much my heads spinning so forgive me if it's a bit 
>> scattered !
>>
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