On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:57:41 AM UTC-4 Peter Bridge wrote:

Did your noticeably heavy Sequoia perhaps have heavy wheels or thornproof 
tubes or a spring Brooks saddle or some such?  I find Sequoias to be 
sportingly light. 

No, it was the stock parts that came with it. Fairly light wheels, Turbo 
tires. I would make the same statement about Heron #1, the prototype, which 
is a Road frame built with Touring stays at the rear. Both frames are a joy 
to ride. 

Interestingly, I read somewhere that the Sequoia was designed with a bit 
heavier down tube and chain stays. Recently I posted on a frame building 
forum a query about the ratio of stiffness among the frame tubes. If you 
look at older Reynolds tube set specs, they have .1mm thicker down tubes 
than top and seat. Or, if you like, their top and seat tube walls are .1mm 
thinner than the down tube. All other tube manufacturers, and even Reynolds 
now today, specify tube sets with equal wall thickness around the main 
triangle. It's also important to note that the down tube and seat tube were 
always 1/8" larger diameter than the top tube. Lately it seems steel 
builders have been experimenting away from that, but I haven't seen any 
discussion of why they would do that. For my Rivendell Road, for example, 
Grant spec'd the exact same tube for both top and down tubes. So, that goes 
the other direction, making the top tube exactly the same stiffness as the 
down tube. BUT, because the top tube is shorter than the down tube, there 
is less butted section remaining in the top tube. Anyway, my hypothesis is 
that the relative stiffness among the tubes has an effect on how the frame 
feels, and the a stiffer down tube and chain stays is what produced the 
"magic" feel of a Reynolds frame. Perhaps backing up this hypothesis is the 
"Spine" line of frames that Trek built, with steel or titanium down tubes 
and chain stays, and carbon tubes elsewhere. Their marketing touted the 
effect that had on the feel of the frame. A friend has the titanium one and 
he loves it.

Sorry for the meandering detour. I just found the Specialized Sequoia frame 
to feel heavy when lifting, compared to some other steel frames. But I 
loved the way it rode.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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