Thanks Brian and Danny! 

I got the mech freed. The parallelogram housing is twisted, too. The limit 
screws aren't in plane, they're twisted! It's a huge mess. Still have many 
good screws, bolts and springs worth saving. Jockey wheels, too. I'll leave 
it as-is and pull parts from it as needed. 

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 8:19:03 PM UTC-4 Danny wrote:

> Sorry about the hanger damage, but good to hear that you're ok. Even in 
> its pretzelized state, it's a good looking derailer sculpture!
>
> -Danny
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 6:42 PM Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I’m just over here hungry for pretzels.
>>
>> Seriously though, glad you’re ok, and I’m sorry about your Sam’s hanger. 
>> I’m sure it’ll be up and running strong again soon.
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2023, at 6:57 PM, Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Jim. Just a bit of my own patented brand of sarcasm ;) 
>>
>> The damage is waaay out of proportion to the fall. 
>>
>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:57:30 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>>
>>> Wow... the most important thing is that you're fine, Eric. The bike 
>>> stuff is "just" bike stuff, repairable or replaceable.
>>>
>>> I saw your subject line and glanced at the pic before reading your 
>>> story, and at first I thought, "dang, did he get that thing to actually 
>>> work?!?"
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:30:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dustin: To answer your question, hell no! 
>>>>
>>>> Ted: Gonna text the frame builder I know tomorrow. 
>>>>
>>>> Jared: Thanks! I'll share again when I have some updates. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yikes, that looks like a mess! 
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad you're okay and it's now another part of that Sam's history.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to seeing your repair updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> jared
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:32:48 PM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but I’m sorry 
>>>>>> to hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the pretzel you’ve 
>>>>>> made, 
>>>>>> though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for deraillers that went 
>>>>>> through 
>>>>>> a far more severe crash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that actually 
>>>>>> sounds like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the hanger can be fixed 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> minimal fuss but I think you may be right, a frame builder might be 
>>>>>> needed 
>>>>>> here. It always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt replaceable hangers at 
>>>>>> some point along the line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D <macro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the 
>>>>>>> pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to 
>>>>>>> be 
>>>>>>> worth it?  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dustin in VA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth <eric...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a 
>>>>>>> picture. I rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, 
>>>>>>> hidden with fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm 
>>>>>>> fine! 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated 
>>>>>>> 90º. And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the 
>>>>>>> crank 
>>>>>>> while off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it 
>>>>>>> a go 
>>>>>>> as a single speed. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that 
>>>>>>> time the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the 
>>>>>>> spokes and throwing the chain. It was really fun!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <Screenshot 2023-07-23 at 3.05.28 PM.png>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the hanger 
>>>>>>> can be bent but I have a feeling it will require some work from a frame 
>>>>>>> builder. That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have five of them 
>>>>>>> (including this one). You might recall the cage tension spring in my 
>>>>>>> previous Cyclone recently failed. This is one of the replacements I 
>>>>>>> picked 
>>>>>>> up. It was in excellent shape but now it's going to the salvage bin. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask if they 
>>>>>>> could help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need anything?" I 
>>>>>>> replied "I 
>>>>>>> need derailer hanger, a rear mech and a welding torch!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope your weekend rides weren't so mechanically eventful. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric
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