Here is a link to the video that helped me understand the floor pump method
of seating a tubeless bead that Jamie described (quite well, I might add).
Jump to the 2:50 mark for the relevant bits:
https://youtu.be/tE3h4nmDdO

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:08 PM Jamie W <jwhitte...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I remember when Stan's was first coming out/gaining popularity the rep
> came by the shop and set up a whole bunch of old rims tubeless. These were
> just any old rims kicking around the back. As mentioned the tape prevents
> air loss through the spoke drilling. Modern rims and tires have a much
> better or secure fit out the box, but again, this can be fudged with
> additional tape to build the "shelf". People have great luck with Gorilla
> tape as a cheaper alternative. I think it's good to play around with the
> system to help demystify the workings. Worse case it isn't for you on you
> need to clean a bit of tape glue.
>
> As someone without an air compressor, a helpful trick I use is to seat the
> majority of the tire on the rim before inflating. You are essentially using
> a tire lever to pretend to pull the tire out of the rim while using your
> thumb behind it to prevent it from actually popping off, therefore pulling
> the bead into the shelf or hook. Say the valve is at 12 o'clock, start at
> maybe 2 and go clockwise until at least 2/3rds of the tire is seated. The
> 1/3rd of the tire near the valve will be "loose" and sitting in the channel
> of the rim while the rest of the tire be fully set in the rim hook. I've
> had luck setting up tubeless with a hand pump using this method.
>
> I'm guessing you aren't using the hunk for bike park riding or aggressive
> low psi road ride descending. It should be fine for most riding or at least
> until new rims arrive.
> Buuuut I'm giving advice over the internet, so I'll add; maybe or who
> knows??
>
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:56:53 PM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> My Big Bens are nearing end of life and I’m curious about setting up my
>> Hunq tubeless. But I have Atlas rims, which Velocity says is a no-go.
>> However if you scroll through the comments on this article, John Watson
>> from the Radavist says they set up nicely:
>>
>> https://theradavist.com/rivendell-hunqapillar-review/
>>
>> So why would I want to do this? Mostly to get experience working with
>> tubeless setups. My full-squish MTB and gravel/bikepacking rig are
>> tubeless, and if/when I encounter issues with either of them (esp. if I’m
>> in a remote locale) I’d like to have some hands-on knowledge with
>> troubleshooting tubeless systems. I already have an air compressor, so
>> basically for the cost of some tape and sealant I’d be good to go.
>>
>> Anybody have experience with making non-tubeless rims play nicely
>> tubeless? Tips or tricks to share? Or is it just a bad idea, and should I
>> resign myself to getting some new wheels built with Cliffhangers? I’d hate
>> to have the Hunq out of commission that long, but if I timed it to coincide
>> with out-of-town travel it probably wouldn’t be that big a deal.
>>
>> One last question — Cliffhangers are wider than Atlases by about 4.6 mm.
>> How would that affect fender clearance? My intuition is that wider rims
>> should result in a flatter tire arc, and potentially make it possible to go
>> slightly wider if I wanted to. I have 50s now, and would like to be able to
>> move up to 55s or even 60s.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
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