Admittedly, I had almost the exact opposite issue as a college student. I 
grew up without cyclists in my family, and think it's so rad that there are 
parents like Leah to give a good starting point of living a happily car 
free college life. 

I was messy messy messy in my hyperfocus niche interests (bikes). As an 
adolescent I got into bmx bikes. I had a very high end BMX I kept in my 
dorm room under my bunk for the first two years. I worked at a skatepark 
and rode with many professional friends. Eventually, a visiting friend 
"from the city" brought his IRO fixed gear. I was absolutely smitten. He 
taught me about fixed gear conversions - so I went to one on one bike 
studios in Minneapolis and Gene helped me pick out a beat Schwinn Letour in 
my size and parts I needed to convert it to fixed. 

Within the next few months - I befriended a local bike shop worker who 
talked me into buying a 54cm Surly steam roller frame (I am 6' 2" mind you) 
for nearly wholesale as it'd been sitting for ever a year. My IRO friend 
came back and took me down the biggest hill in town (sanfrancisco style) on 
that brakeless steamroller. Literally probably the stupidest day of my 
life. We continued on a 40+K ride in the country side to a waterfall and it 
blew my mind. My friend with the IRO was also into racing on a geared bike 
- and informed me on the magic of "geared bikes" 

I sold the steamroller and dropped all my savings on a Long haul Trucker. 
Except - except they all fit weird and I didn't like the loooong top tube 
after a short period. So I traded it for Cross check. I despised the cross 
check frame even more - but somebody offered to trade a geared Karate 
Monkey for my Cross check. I rode the Karate Monkey for a while, but fell 
back in love with single speeds, so converted it to single speed and rode 
that a long time. To my detriment "Ride the Divide" came out. Mark Remier's 
first Generation Salsa Fargo was on display - dirt and all at the premier. 
Within the week I rode to Angry Catfish and picked up a Fargo in my size. I 
loved that bike. That concluded my undergrad....I wont even start on my 
bikes during my "Grad school years" 

I was quite..."promiscuous" in my bike building because "college" is for 
experimenting right? (I never drank or did drugs - most of my bike dealings 
were trade/second hand based being in QBP land) There was just so much to 
learn and try out -  I couldn't get enough. There were definitely other 
bikes and builds in there I am forgetting like a shogun touring bike etc. 
and lots of BMX bikes. That was just my undergrad...20 years later. Oof - 
not going to think too hard about it. But the enthusiasm hasn't stopped.

I think it's super cool to have an option for such a versatile bike from 
the get go and supportive parents for a *much* better starting point. I 
absolutely believe that Leah's kid is in good hands. Who knows what'll 
happen, but he's got a great bike to work with and obviously a lot of love 
and support which is super great. 

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 11:46:56 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This is going great you guys. I think it was clear after many days and 
> many posts that the question is "what bike?", not does the kid even want 
> one. It'd be super if we could stick with that. 
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 11:38:13 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I have to agree with both Johns; the question seemed to be serious 
>> and without condescension. The triple question marks indicate reserve in 
>> asking the question and not exasperation or putdown; "Perhaps you might 
>> consider ...?"
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 12:02 PM Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>> I took the question exactly as Leah interpreted it. The triple question 
>>> mark at the end of the question was pretty emphatic. Take a breath? Really 
>>> man?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 1:57:37 PM UTC-4 John Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leah, please take a breath and count to 10.
>>>>
>>>> John's question wasn't rude, and was a fair question in that the *strength 
>>>> of his desire *for a bike at college *could* correlate to the amount 
>>>> of attention he would give to keeping the bike secure.
>>>>
>>>> You did ask for people's opinions, so please just ignore those you 
>>>> don't like.
>>>>
>>>> John 
>>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 2:22:12 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John,
>>>>> Text makes it hard to tell sometimes, so I suppose I’ll ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Is your question asked because you have the perfect bike waiting 
>>>>> for him that you would like to gift him?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Is your question being asked because you are genuinely confused 
>>>>> about the topic of the conversation?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Or is your question posed so as to look down on me, as if I was 
>>>>> imposing my choices on my son?
>>>>>
>>>>

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