This is all very helpful. 55cm seems more versatile. I'm unlikely to put 
drop bars on it, but, still. If I can find a used bargain I'll try a 60, 
else I'll go for the 55. Really appreciate the kind and quality of feedback 
here.

On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:32:21 AM UTC-7 exliontamer wrote:

> Aside from the subjectivity of saddle height I would attempt to try 
> different sizes of bikes to see which feels better to you. I realize that's 
> next to impossible with a Rivendell but if you have bikes that fit you well 
> I think the knowledge can work laterally. I had a friend buy an Appaloosa 
> from Riv, went off of their sizing method/recommendation over the phone and 
> ended up with a bike they felt was too big. Fast forward years later, we 
> just visited the shop a month ago, they test rode an Appaloosa that was a 
> size smaller and strongly preferred it. We're all built differently and 
> even with experience it's difficult to tell how you feel about it before 
> you actually ride it. 
> Also they obviously know what they're doing & their sizing methods/bar & 
> stem recommendations have steered my wife right twice. Just wanted to relay 
> that story 'cos them bikes is expensive.
> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 8:03:10 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Welcome, Matt! 
>> Saddle height is a bit subjective - but the heel on pedal method gets me 
>> in the ballpark.
>> If your PBH is 83cm I think a 60cm Platy might be cutting it close just 
>> due to saddle height - I feel I'm towards the lower end of the 60cm 
>> Platypus PBH range at 87cm PBH. I'm using a lower profile saddle (compared 
>> to something like a Brooks B17) and don't have a lot of seatpost showing, 
>> but I also run my saddle a bit lower than the PBH - 11cm guideline.
>>
>> Given that Grant has made a 64cm Clem fit him at 85cm 
>> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/grants-64cm-clem-l-85cm-pbh>, you 
>> could likely get a 60cm Platypus to fit but it may limit saddle, seatpost, 
>> stem, and bar options.
>>
>> -Dave (near Boston)
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 12:27:49 AM UTC-4 Matt wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, all! It seems more art than science. I usually cycle in sandals 
>>> (I refuse to call them flip flops), so I assume that grown-up shoes will 
>>> add some. Nice to be here.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 6:27:48 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of the methods I've read about that is and older one (1960s?) and gives 
>>>> a lower saddle than others; for me, a saddle quite a bit too low -- I did 
>>>> use it myself long ago. Of course, all of these methods are simply 
>>>> starting 
>>>> points.
>>>>
>>>> To the OP: be sure to get your saddle fore-and-aft position in place 
>>>> too as well as saddle height before making other measurements; and even 
>>>> saddle tilt in addition to both the forgoing can affect preferred reach to 
>>>> pedals.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 1:20 AM Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I heard somewhere a million years ago that you should be able to rest 
>>>>> your heel on the pedal with a straight leg. If you stretch it's too high, 
>>>>> if your knee is bent it's too low. Sounds ridiculous but it's never 
>>>>> failed 
>>>>> me. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:46:05 PM UTC-7 Matt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Newb here, but long time Rivendell lurker. Chatted to Will today 
>>>>>> about a Platypus and he mentioned saddle height. My BPH is 83cm (self 
>>>>>> measured - pretty sure it was to bone but maybe another cm?). Currently 
>>>>>> riding an ebike, which feels like driving an automatic only worse, so 
>>>>>> I'm 
>>>>>> not sure the saddle height is a good indication of what's ideal with a 
>>>>>> real 
>>>>>> bicycle. Any thoughts on measuring or extrapolating from PBH? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> btw looking for 55/60cm Platypus, but may well wait for the next 
>>>>>> stock. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lovely group, this. Thanks for the edification.
>>>>>>
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