Hi Ted — I like Rene Herse tires but refrain from recommending them simply 
because they're so darn expensive and the benefits of the casing might not 
be appreciated by all. I would just hate for someone to think "Eric 
recommended these expensive tires and I don't like 'em!" While I do enjoy 
them and stick with them I hesitate to tell anyone "You should run these 
tires!" Looks like you have some RH experience. If I was running the Super 
Yummys I'd be tempted to try the Antelope Hill...

I run the Rene Herse Antelope Hill 700x55 with endurance casing on my 54cm 
Appaloosa. I've had one flat in the past two years of riding paved roads, 
gravel roads, dirt and trails. They're pretty fun! I enjoy riding them on 
long rides with lots of climbing and paved and unpaved surfaces. Feels 
great up on my Appaloosa, the Original Steel Couch. I also find all the 
volume to be pretty nice running errands and doing stuff around town. 

On my Hillborne I run the Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44. I've ridden 
standard casing and the extra-lights. Much prefer the feel and speed of the 
extra-lights though they are a bit more prone to punctures. Had plenty of 
flats with the standard casing as well. Almost always from road debris, 
glass specifically, though I have picked up thorns and wire. 

In terms of feel the RHs are great tires, especially in the EL and 
Endurance casings. I think the standard casing is just so-so. And again, 
the price is quite painful. I recently got a new set of Snoqualmie ELs for 
the Hillborne and it was $200 after shipping. 

My sample size is limited, I've only run Rene Herse tires on my Rivendells. 
On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:10:32 AM UTC-4 thetaper...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I just installed "cool weather boots" on my Atlantis, a set of Soma 
> Cazadero 700x50. I do love the handling with these tires compared to the 
> Soma SV 700x42s that were just on. It feels even more planted and solid 
> with the wider rubber, which is great for the time of year when cold and 
> wet come into play.
>
> Nick
> Falls Church VA
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 3:27:09 PM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Over the last few months, I've flatted three or four times on the RHes; 
>> clearly, the tread has worn thin. I was discussing the issue with a 
>> repairman at one of the local bike kitchens. He mentioned that GK Slicks 
>> hold up fine, but it takes a while for the rubber to cure - several months, 
>> or several hundred miles. Although that's in keeping with bike tire 
>> traditions ("inflate your new tubulars on a rim and age them over the 
>> winter" et al), it had never occurred to me that my shiny-new tires might 
>> take a period of aging to be fully ready for road use. I've reinstalled the 
>> GKs and put about 250 miles on them without incident. Maybe the intervening 
>> 20 months has aged the rubber enough to stand up to small road hazards? 
>> Fingers crossed...
>>
>>
>> That seems unlikely to be true. As for your unluckiness with flats, I 
>> think that's just a run of bad luck (running over glass at night). I have 
>> not noticed that new tires puncture any less frequently than old tires. I 
>> regularly run tires until the rubber wears away and I can see the nylon 
>> cords below.  What I do notice is that some tires (e.g., the Continental 
>> tires) have so much tread on them that the sidewalls are more likely to die 
>> than the tread to wear out. But that may be that I ride more off pavement 
>> on my tires than most, giving more opportunities to have cuts on the tire.
>>  
>>
>

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