Hi Paul — If you're regularly hauling loads like in your picture it would be worthwhile to get set up with some good racks and panniers. A handlebar load of 36 lbs sounds dicey! I'm impressed you got a photo of the bars loaded up while in motion.
I've had a few setups over the years. The one that allowed me the most volume was a LHT with front and rear Surly racks (they're very stout). I had a Wald 137 up front with a Sackville shop sack and I'd run two of the Jandd grocery panniers <https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP> in the back. The Jandd bags are the size of a standard brown paper grocery bag. I could haul some serious weight! Sometimes I'd strap a 12-pack of seltzer to the flat part of the rack between two fully loaded panniers. These days I do much more frequent and smaller grocery runs with my Appaloosa or Hillborne. There's a nice grocery store that's 3/4 mile from my house and I go there frequently, sometimes every day. I use my bicycle as a grocery cart inside the store. Both of the grocery stores I frequent have bike racks outside but I've found that wheeling my bike inside saves me time and effort. I go in the store with the bike, fill the bag, check out, reload the bag, go home, take the groceries inside. On my Appaloosa I'll attach a Wald 139 to my Nitto M1 with Voile straps and then set a medium Sackville shopsack inside. My Hillborne has a Ron's Bikes Fab's Abs which holds enough for a small trip (avocados, chocolate, fermented beets, some carrots). Both bikes have a Widefoot liter cage which is good for managing a little extra volume like a quart of yogurt or certain bottles of sparkling water. There are a few items that fit a standard bottle cage as well. With the Appaloosa/Sackville combo I really appreciate being able to grab the bag out of the basket and walk inside. I've run Ron's Bikes Fab's Chest bags and used them for groceries. They hold a lot of stuff but when I get home I have to unload the bag into a box or something then carry everything inside and that's a pain. For a brief and shining moment one of the grocery stores offered a scanning app that allowed customers to scan barcodes with their phone. I only had to load up once, then scan my phone at the self-checkout. I loved that I didn't have to unload everything to scan it at checkout. That was great, I was so fast. Another note on expedience: locking up the bike outside adds two walks across the parking lot, plus unlocking, plus loading the bike with my bag of groceries. So I've settled on the bike-as-cart method. Works better for small and frequent trips rather than big hauls up to 40 pounds. I realize it's certainly not for everyone. I try to go at off times when the stores aren't very busy. It also attracts attention and some people find it odd or bothersome (because it's unexpected and different). Kids stare in wonder. Let us know what you end up doing! On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 2:06:43 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote: > [image: image.jpeg] > > Just got a B.O.B.! > > On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 10:20:52 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote: > >> When it’s more than one bag of groceries I take my Emory Workhorse cargo >> bike with the enormous world-swallowing waxed canvas grocery bag (open, >> below, rolls down like a paper bag) I had made by local bagmaker Brandon of >> CycleCats. Fits A Lot. >> >> [image: image0.jpeg] >> >> On Oct 5, 2023, at 22:06, Brian Witt <brian...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> <E31FE92C-676F-4B06-886F-F0F438D26D0D_1_105_c.jpeg> >> >> so, this is my Giant commuter bike....a series of health 'issues' >> brought me to a place in my life where a 'step thru' was necessary..(.I am >> getting back on the Quickbeam slowly and gratefully).... the front basket >> is a Wald 157, and 'Kitty Litter' buckets with fittings that 'snap' onto >> the rear rack....The clips are by Klickfix, a german company, and I got >> them through velofred.com. he carries a variety of mounting >> fixtures and accessories for bike bags, racks and panniers etc. I have a >> 2 leg kickstand which makes loading the groceries much easier. the clips >> are nice... when i get home i can lift the buckets off the bike and carry >> the groceries into the house...yeah, i know i could paint the litter >> buckets, but i kinda like the look! >> >> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:52 PM Alex K <ack...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> A recent Costco run! Pass And Stow rack, Wald 139 and a few RokStraps and >>> we're golden... >> >> Alex in SF >>> <0-1.jpg> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:43:02 PM UTC-7 aelga...@castilleja.org >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Nice work Paul! I used to do the exact same thing in middle school when >>>> I had a paper route for the Contra Costa Times. 150 papers balanced on my >>>> handlebars every morning. 😊 >>>> >>>> Ahmed in Redwood City >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 7:37 PM Christian B-H <bei...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> [image: IMG_2959.jpeg]Respect, Paul! That’s genius. I bought these >>>>> durable ortlieb panniers to match my wife’s old bike in pre-pandemic >>>>> commuting times once she’d gotten tired of the sweaty back pack commute >>>>> in >>>>> the summer humidity and while boring, they do a great job! Also a Soma >>>>> Champs Elyse rack up front with Wald 137 and a SimWorks RAL tote have >>>>> been >>>>> awesome! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:28:42 PM UTC-6 Paul in Dallas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I know this probably has been discussed before. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you use your bike for such errands what is your method of >>>>>> transporting groceries or other items? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have one bike with a rack and a large Wald basket that can handle a >>>>>> couple bags of groceries but sometimes as I rotate through my bikes I >>>>>> use >>>>>> the method pictured below of tying cloth sacks around the handlebar >>>>>> balancing the load. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think this can be a risky method. >>>>>> >>>>>> I need to find some decent grocery panniers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Today I weighed these 2 sacks in bathroom scales. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dang...36.2 pounds. 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