Well, for those curious, I discovered and impulsively bought a set of WTB
Resolute tires in 700x42. A friend of mines wife runs these on her Hoefer (
http://www.hoefercycles.com) gravel bike. My friend also happens to have a
couple other bikes. One runs the RH Umtanum Ridge (650x55) on one bike and
the other, Juniper Ridge (650x48). So this gave me a really great
opportunity to compare a lot of options side-by-side. Bringing out the
calipers, I measured things as follows:

|———————————————————————————————-|
|     tire         | sidewall size  | rim inner width | measured width |
|———-————————————————————————————|
| WTB          |     650x42      |     25mm            |      44mm
    |
|———————————————————————————————-|
| Umtanum |     650x55      |      19mm            |      53mm             |
|———————————————————————————————-|
| Juniper     |     650x48      |      24mm           |       50mm
   |
|———————————————————————————————-|

I ended up with the WTB tires because the tread pattern is almost identical
to the RH tread pattern and they’re 2/3 the price of the RH tires. The only
concern I have at this point is the sidewall. My friend warned me that he
has seen some other folks run these tires and shred the thin sidewalls. But
he prefaced that with saying those people rode on very aggressive terrain,
not what I ride (pavement and hard pack gravel).

I hope the data formatted properly (I did my best on my phone) and that the
data is helpful for others. I will report back if there’s anything to note
about the WTB tires as I get some miles on them.

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 11:50 AM Mike Godwin <spokenhu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Supple Vitese 700x38 on Bob Jackson
> Challenge Strada Bianca 700x32 on Roadeo (measure about 33.3)
> Gravel King slicks 700x38 on BMC Monstercross
>
> All nice smooth rolling, the feel light enough. Got my first flat on Bob
> last week from a goathead. I've not had issues with them, mount easily and
> lie in the bead bed perfectly.  Same can be said about the Challenge
> tires.  Gravel Kings are a bit tighter (on Pacenti Forza rims), I think
> they are the tubeless compatible model. No flats yet.
>
> BMC and BJ do commute and errand duties alternating weeks.
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 10:18:02 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Jason,
>>
>> I'm digging the 650B × 42 Pumpkin Ridge for crappy road/mellow dirt
>> riding, but they feel a smidge narrow and skittish on some of the gnarlier
>> terrain I've discovered since moving here. I have room for 48s, should I
>> dump cash - it's a LOT of cash - into Juniper Ridges?
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 5:43:19 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I'm late to the party, and every angle has already been discussed at
>>> length, but I still want to shout out the RH knobbies. I'm very happy with
>>> them, but more notably for me is that I've recommended them to some riding
>>> buddies and then the good word spread like wildfire and now nearly all my
>>> riding buddies within that social circle, which ranges from longtime
>>> roadies to newbies to longtime mountain bikers, all absolutely swear by
>>> these tires.  None of us have experienced a tire that grips so well on a
>>> variety of trail surfaces, rolls fast and predictably on pavement, resists
>>> punctures, and feels great (better than other premium Panaracer brands) all
>>> at the same time.
>>>
>>> My only non-gushing comments would be that they do have a buzz on
>>> pavement, though the tone is more pleasant than most knobbies, and they do
>>> tend to throw pea gravel through your fender if you run metal fenders,
>>> which is slightly annoying. Definitely pair these with PDW safety tabs if
>>> running metal fenders.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 2 October 2023 at 08:26:17 UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want
>>>> to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit
>>>> absorbed with that thought.
>>>>
>>>> At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black
>>>> sidewall in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a
>>>> 26” build and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the
>>>> larger size, with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I
>>>> find the tires sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the
>>>> 25mm wide rim I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile
>>>> and something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range
>>>> to start.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend
>>>> who runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose
>>>> and absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another
>>>> build and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the
>>>> “endurance” casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t
>>>> handle the typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one
>>>> of the reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.
>>>>
>>>> The ones on my short list are currently the  Manatash Ridge (700x42)
>>>> and Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.
>>>>
>>>> I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked.
>>>> If you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like
>>>> (particularly 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).
>>>>
>>>> — Ted
>>>>
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