I will chime in just to say that I think Richard is right about how amazing 
these bikes are to ride! In my opinion, I’d go for a Gus. If I had, I’d 
likely still have it. I’m 170lbs so on Will’s suggestion I went for the 
Susie. In my experience, the Susie turns into a noodle at speed through the 
rough. It was better with a different bar (I had a Tosco 60cm) but I bet 
the Gus is awesome with the stiffer steering. 

I think it really depends how aggressively you ride though. Just cruising 
through rough roads the Susie rode like a dream! I was just honestly 
worried I was going to break it every time I rode it more aggressively 
though. I do still jump often as a note. Just my experience. 

On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 11:18:55 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Richard -
> You are more than welcome.
>
> I'm glad to hear that you are trying to express your inner joy and 
> happiness riding your bikes. 
>
> Excellent question presented.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 10:45 AM Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Kim. I am only writing in a somewhat lame attempt to put into 
>> words the joy riding these bikes brings me. How many forms of exercise 
>> exist where you cannot wait for the next workout?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 21, 2023, at 11:59 AM, Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> @Richard -
>> I always enjoy reading your posts, whether it's about riding your Gus or 
>> your Clem. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 6:28 AM Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This exactly is why I was not disappointed when I thought I wanted a 
>>> Susie but found a Gus instead. I am 170lbs. but wanted no limitations in 
>>> regards to loading the bike or jumping it. I mean, at 68 I am only jumping 
>>> by accident, but I do enjoy the rough stuff including drops of up to two 
>>> feet. On my local trail there is this one jump, not much more that a foot 
>>> in height but it seems like more as it’s a downhill landing leading to a 
>>> flat bridge. It’s a fun feature that I did once on the Gus & the Bosco 
>>> slipped. Nothing too dramatic but alarming nonetheless. Problem has been 
>>> solved with the Albacore bar - solid as a rock. So that is still my “one 
>>> jump”.:)
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2023, at 8:53 PM, Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> From the RBW website about Susie W. Longbolts:
>>>
>>> "It’s like the Gus but for riders under 210 pounds and who promise to 
>>> ride them with loads of 25lbs or less, and no jumps or canyon-crossings. 
>>> It's a Gus for lightweights and light loads. A Susie/Wolbis frame 
>>> weighs only about 12oz less than the same sized Gus frame, and there is NO 
>>> ride difference. If you make the weight limit and have no plans for 
>>> off-road bikepacking or death-defying showoff stuff, get this over Gus. 
>>> Also, it uses a quill stem and has a Riv-standard 1-inch threaded steerer.
>>>
>>> Our 210 lb weight limit is a conservative hunch, not laboratory-derived. 
>>> A lot of it depends on tire pressure and even more importantly, technique. 
>>> It's not like the Susie has super thin-walled tubes or anything, but it 
>>> doesn't have the same abuse cushion that Gus has."
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 4:52:11 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This review is pretty convincing.
>>>> [image: Rivendell-Gus-Boots-Willsen-Review-hero.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>> The Rivendell Gus Boots Willsen Hillibike Makes a Case for 550mm 
>>>> Chainstays 
>>>> <https://bikerumor.com/rivendell-gus-boots-willsen-hillibike-review/>
>>>> bikerumor.com 
>>>> <https://bikerumor.com/rivendell-gus-boots-willsen-hillibike-review/>
>>>> <https://bikerumor.com/rivendell-gus-boots-willsen-hillibike-review/>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 20, 2023, at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I believe Large in this instance means 56cm, they seem open to 
>>>> shipping. They're not coming up very often soooo...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-large-gold-rivendell/7689088638.html
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 9:06:25 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thinking of getting a fatter-tired bike going for casual Zone 2 
>>>>> sorties and quiet trail riding. (Mainly need a frame as an excuse to use 
>>>>> my 
>>>>> idle Bullmoose bars... so it goes.) 
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a Susie, what's your experience been like? Would you 
>>>>> recommend it and for what? Should I try to find a 56 cm Susie (Riv is out 
>>>>> of stock), or should I get something else?.. Should I get something 
>>>>> custom 
>>>>> made that'll be lighter?.. 
>>>>>
>>>>> - Max "idle lunchtime thoughts on this cool November day while not 
>>>>> wanting to do any work nor organize my already overflowing bike room" in 
>>>>> MI 
>>>>>
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