Dorothy - Beautiful bike and thanks for the rec on the Nutfix. I had heard 
of Hexlox and Pinhead but not these from Abus. Those crafty Germans…


I’ve also heard of people putting a ball bearing down in the hex bolt 
divots with a dab of super glue. I guess the theory is that it can be dug 
out pretty easily once you're back home but would deter a would-be saddle 
thief or the like. I’ve never worried much about this personally. 


I do a fat U-lock through the rear wheel and frame, then a flex cable 
through the front wheel. 

On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 8:30:28 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I love this advice the best. I bought the same Hexlox products as Armand, 
> and though I’m not in a high-risk area, so far, so good. I started a thread 
> on this topic months ago after Grant wrote a post saying that it’s such a 
> bummer to a maker when he sees his creation relegated to being an ornament. 
> (Not that you are doing that, OP, I know you ride your Rivs other ways!) 
> All that work Grant poured into making bikes that are comfortable and 
> capable of life’s daily demands is wasted if the bike is “too nice” to be 
> used. He suggests that you ride the bike you love, since that’s what it’s 
> meant for, but if it really grieves you to lock it up, get a 2nd Rivendell 
> and be willing. Pam and Ana are some of our best ambassadors for this 
> idealogy. Ana rides a *custom* and yet uses it as her daily driver!
>
> I do not have an Air Tag in my bike, however…That is a good idea. Where 
> should one hide it?
> Leah
>
> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 7:34:32 PM UTC-5 kiziria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've locked all my very expensive bikes without hesitation on a daily 
>> basis throughout different parts of Los Angeles, good and bad, for the last 
>> 15 years with zero issues. Let's get a reality check here. 
>>
>> 1) The odds of a high security rated u-lock being cut are next to nill in 
>> a public setting. These often require angle grinders, which are loud as 
>> hell and shoot a stream of sparks 6-12ft long. 
>>
>> 2) If you're concerned about your components, secure them. Considering 
>> the exorbitant amount of $ we spend on our bikes, a $60-120 investment is 
>> well worth it. I utilize hexlox inserts in seatpost/saddle/axle 
>> skewers/stem bolt and can be at complete ease to know essentially 
>> superflous items will only be stolen off my bike. 
>>
>> 3) If you're still the worrying type. Hide an apple airtag or install a 
>> Knog Scout. 
>>
>> Ride your expensive bikes wherever you desire. Stop worrying, or worse, 
>> building cheaper bikes to not ride your expensive bikes. 
>>
>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 11:57:45 AM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_3149.jpeg]I have the benefit of gated parking where I work 
>>> so I ride any of my Rivs as the fancy takes me. I’m in SoCal so ice is not 
>>> an issue. What I have done on my 700c Roadini with Rich built wheels is to 
>>> replace the QR skewers with Abus Nutfix locking skewers - there is a cap 
>>> that hides 8mm wrench flats, that can’t be pulled out except when the wheel 
>>> is exactly horizontal, so U locking the bike with them to the inside of the 
>>> bike rack means the wheels can’t be taken off. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 6:49:30 AM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all. I find myself trying to make a decision regarding which bike 
>>>> to use as my commuter. 
>>>>
>>>> Background: I live in Indianapolis and ride my bike for a good chunk of 
>>>> my daily needs. I have a short commute to work which is done on bike 90% 
>>>> of 
>>>> the time. I usually work from 5:20-ish am to about 6:30 pm 3-4 days a 
>>>> week. 
>>>> The only days I don't ride in are if it's pouring rain when I get up, or 
>>>> the snow is too deep to get through. I could ride in the rain, and don't 
>>>> mind it on the way home, but already get up at 4:30 am and simply don't 
>>>> have time to change or mess with it on work days. I'm commuting on a 
>>>> Rohloff-equipped Surly Ogre currently and have put less than 1K miles on 
>>>> my 
>>>> car this year. We live near downtown and are a short ride to many things 
>>>> that we like to do. We often ride to ball games, art exhibits, concerts, 
>>>> dinners, drinks...you name it.  
>>>>
>>>> Dilemma: Now I warned you that this is a 1st world problem, but here 
>>>> goes. I have several Riv's and they are my favorite bikes to ride but I 
>>>> find myself on the Ogre more often than any other bike. I may accumulate 
>>>> more miles on my Rivs, as I ride a Toyo Atlantis as my all-road bike, but 
>>>> I 
>>>> do way more trips on the Surly. For some reason, I simply feel more 
>>>> comfortable locking up the Surly for 13 hours or outside of a music venue 
>>>> downtown than I do a Rivendell. In my mind, the Riv seems like more of a 
>>>> target for would-be thieves than the Surly and thus it gets most of the 
>>>> day-to-day duty. The thing is that I enjoy riding a Rivendell much more 
>>>> than the Surly and, after giving this some thought, had decided to buy a 
>>>> Clem when this latest batch of completes was released, and start using it 
>>>> for my daily driver. 
>>>>
>>>> However, after doing some math in my head, and realizing that I'd 
>>>> likely change a lot of the Clem complete build, I am thinking that I'd 
>>>> might as well ride one of the Rivs that I currently own. By the time I get 
>>>> the Clem to my door, I've spent $2500 with shipping and tax. I'd change 
>>>> the 
>>>> bars, add a saddle, add fenders, have the front wheel rebuilt with a dyno 
>>>> hub, and so on. I'd easily be into it for $3K or more. My Surly has a 
>>>> $1400 
>>>> rear hub and is easily over the $3K mark. 
>>>>
>>>> I am lucky enough to have two Rivendell Atlantis and a Hunq. I've owned 
>>>> several others in the past as well. One of the Atlantis bikes that I have 
>>>> would fit the bill. It's the more recent style with the longer wheelbase & 
>>>> double top tube. These are super sturdy bikes that wouldn't mind being 
>>>> loaded up and taken to work. I've already got a wheelset with a dyno hub 
>>>> and a light lying around here somewhere. I purchased this bike for $3K 
>>>> this 
>>>> summer from a local guy. I didn't need the bike but just couldn't pass it 
>>>> up as it was so cool! 
>>>>
>>>> I thought to myself: I've locked up more expensive bikes at work for 13 
>>>> hours or at music venues until the wee hours of the night without issue, 
>>>> so 
>>>> why not just do the bulk of my riding on a bike that I truly enjoy riding? 
>>>> What am I saving it for? 
>>>>
>>>> Questions: Is my logic sound? Do you think that riding a nice Riv to 
>>>> work, to lock it up outside all, day in a city, is a dumb idea? Do you 
>>>> commute on a Riv that is left outside all day? 
>>>>
>>>> *I'd also like to use this as an opportunity to see some of your 
>>>> commuters. Feel free to post a pic of your daily driver and also, let us 
>>>> know if you lock it up outside or not. *
>>>>
>>>> The potential commuter. (I'd change the fenders and bars)
>>>> [image: IMG_0630 Medium.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>> My current all road bike
>>>> [image: IMG_0514 Medium.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>> Not a commuter. I ride this guy around quite a bit though. 
>>>> [image: IMG_0570 Medium.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>> The Surly, although it now has had Jones bars on it for quite some 
>>>> time. 
>>>> [image: IMG_0230 Medium.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>

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