“don't ride anything that you're not WILLING to lose.”— iamkeith I live in city (Philadelphia) with bike theft issue. I’ve decided on a commute/lockup bike that I can replace while loving the ride. I bought a She-Devil. If it gets stolen, I can replace it. And, I love the ride for my 2 mile trek. I can bring it into my office, but didn’t know that when I decided on it for commuting.
I am getting rid of the she-Devil and the bike I’m most likely to ride to work and errands , and lock up is my Playpus. Because I can replace it. When I do lock up my bikes, it’s similar to Jason’s method. One krypton New York ULock on frame wheel and pole. Another ulock wheel to frame. Heavy locks but extra protection and peace of mind. I have a third u lock if I’m really nervous. They’d have to work hard to get the bike. It’s too easy to cut cable—that’s how my last bike got stolen. I also will have pitlock on seatpost and saddle ( when I get around to installing them). Need to protect myB68 saddle. whatever bike you decide to ride, you should enjoy the ride. Roberta On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 10:07:25 AM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote: > I've been leaving my Cheviot locked up with a single Kryptonite mini > U-lock around the frame in NYC for the past few month since I started > working there again > [image: 002062 New-U Evolution Mini-5.jpg] > I've got Pitlock skewers on my wheels so I'm not concerned with my kind of > expensive dynamo wheel set. ...don't even run cable through them. > I should run some sort of permanent cable through my saddle loops to my > seat stays to prevent my seat post and my 20-year old B68 from being ripped > off....Will do that next. I think I can get a Pitlock for the seat cluster > bolt that is keyed the same as my skewers.. *note to call Peter White > Yes, the U-lock can be cut, but I'm not leaving the bike out > overnight...and I think where I park it , it would be pretty glaring if > someone showed up with a angle grinder. > Maybe there's a better more secure option for the U-lock. > JS > > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 8:53:33 AM UTC-5 Josh C wrote: > >> Armand - Hexlox are a good idea. My locking technique is pretty solid >> too. Also, not worrying just discussing. It’s not going to keep me up at >> night it just sort of dawned on me that I was riding a great, but somewhat >> less enjoyable bike for much of my riding and leaving my favorite bikes at >> home. I like your “just do it and stop worrying about it” mentality. >> >> >> Kim - That’s a good point. I’ll give that one a read too. I liked the >> thread about not being precious with these bikes. They are both very >> applicable. >> >> >> Leah - Thanks for chiming in. After starting this thread someone posted >> to yours about being precious with Rivs and pushed it back to the top. I’ve >> read through that and it was exactly what I was looking for. You are >> correct in that Ana and Pam are prime examples. You can add Dorothy in >> SoCal, we’ve got Cody in Chicago, Patrick in Querque, Josiah in Missoula, >> Bill in the manager’s parking spot, Luke in San Fran, Armand in LA, and so >> on riding these things all over and locking ‘em up out in the wild. Count >> me in. >> >> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 8:32:23 AM UTC-5 Josh C wrote: >> >>> Dorothy - Beautiful bike and thanks for the rec on the Nutfix. I had >>> heard of Hexlox and Pinhead but not these from Abus. Those crafty Germans… >>> >>> >>> I’ve also heard of people putting a ball bearing down in the hex bolt >>> divots with a dab of super glue. I guess the theory is that it can be dug >>> out pretty easily once you're back home but would deter a would-be saddle >>> thief or the like. I’ve never worried much about this personally. >>> >>> >>> I do a fat U-lock through the rear wheel and frame, then a flex cable >>> through the front wheel. >>> >>> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 8:30:28 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding >>> Ding! wrote: >>> >>>> I love this advice the best. I bought the same Hexlox products as >>>> Armand, and though I’m not in a high-risk area, so far, so good. I started >>>> a thread on this topic months ago after Grant wrote a post saying that >>>> it’s >>>> such a bummer to a maker when he sees his creation relegated to being an >>>> ornament. (Not that you are doing that, OP, I know you ride your Rivs >>>> other >>>> ways!) All that work Grant poured into making bikes that are comfortable >>>> and capable of life’s daily demands is wasted if the bike is “too nice” to >>>> be used. He suggests that you ride the bike you love, since that’s what >>>> it’s meant for, but if it really grieves you to lock it up, get a 2nd >>>> Rivendell and be willing. Pam and Ana are some of our best ambassadors for >>>> this idealogy. Ana rides a *custom* and yet uses it as her daily >>>> driver! >>>> >>>> I do not have an Air Tag in my bike, however…That is a good idea. Where >>>> should one hide it? >>>> Leah >>>> >>>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 7:34:32 PM UTC-5 kiziria...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've locked all my very expensive bikes without hesitation on a daily >>>>> basis throughout different parts of Los Angeles, good and bad, for the >>>>> last >>>>> 15 years with zero issues. Let's get a reality check here. >>>>> >>>>> 1) The odds of a high security rated u-lock being cut are next to nill >>>>> in a public setting. These often require angle grinders, which are loud >>>>> as >>>>> hell and shoot a stream of sparks 6-12ft long. >>>>> >>>>> 2) If you're concerned about your components, secure them. Considering >>>>> the exorbitant amount of $ we spend on our bikes, a $60-120 investment is >>>>> well worth it. I utilize hexlox inserts in seatpost/saddle/axle >>>>> skewers/stem bolt and can be at complete ease to know essentially >>>>> superflous items will only be stolen off my bike. >>>>> >>>>> 3) If you're still the worrying type. Hide an apple airtag or install >>>>> a Knog Scout. >>>>> >>>>> Ride your expensive bikes wherever you desire. Stop worrying, or >>>>> worse, building cheaper bikes to not ride your expensive bikes. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 11:57:45 AM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> [image: IMG_3149.jpeg]I have the benefit of gated parking where I >>>>>> work so I ride any of my Rivs as the fancy takes me. I’m in SoCal so ice >>>>>> is >>>>>> not an issue. What I have done on my 700c Roadini with Rich built wheels >>>>>> is >>>>>> to replace the QR skewers with Abus Nutfix locking skewers - there is a >>>>>> cap >>>>>> that hides 8mm wrench flats, that can’t be pulled out except when the >>>>>> wheel >>>>>> is exactly horizontal, so U locking the bike with them to the inside of >>>>>> the >>>>>> bike rack means the wheels can’t be taken off. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 6:49:30 AM UTC-8 Josh C wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all. I find myself trying to make a decision regarding which >>>>>>> bike to use as my commuter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Background: I live in Indianapolis and ride my bike for a good chunk >>>>>>> of my daily needs. I have a short commute to work which is done on bike >>>>>>> 90% >>>>>>> of the time. I usually work from 5:20-ish am to about 6:30 pm 3-4 days >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> week. The only days I don't ride in are if it's pouring rain when I get >>>>>>> up, >>>>>>> or the snow is too deep to get through. I could ride in the rain, and >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> mind it on the way home, but already get up at 4:30 am and simply don't >>>>>>> have time to change or mess with it on work days. I'm commuting on a >>>>>>> Rohloff-equipped Surly Ogre currently and have put less than 1K miles >>>>>>> on my >>>>>>> car this year. We live near downtown and are a short ride to many >>>>>>> things >>>>>>> that we like to do. We often ride to ball games, art exhibits, >>>>>>> concerts, >>>>>>> dinners, drinks...you name it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dilemma: Now I warned you that this is a 1st world problem, but here >>>>>>> goes. I have several Riv's and they are my favorite bikes to ride but I >>>>>>> find myself on the Ogre more often than any other bike. I may >>>>>>> accumulate >>>>>>> more miles on my Rivs, as I ride a Toyo Atlantis as my all-road bike, >>>>>>> but I >>>>>>> do way more trips on the Surly. For some reason, I simply feel more >>>>>>> comfortable locking up the Surly for 13 hours or outside of a music >>>>>>> venue >>>>>>> downtown than I do a Rivendell. In my mind, the Riv seems like more of >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> target for would-be thieves than the Surly and thus it gets most of the >>>>>>> day-to-day duty. The thing is that I enjoy riding a Rivendell much more >>>>>>> than the Surly and, after giving this some thought, had decided to buy >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> Clem when this latest batch of completes was released, and start using >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> for my daily driver. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, after doing some math in my head, and realizing that I'd >>>>>>> likely change a lot of the Clem complete build, I am thinking that I'd >>>>>>> might as well ride one of the Rivs that I currently own. By the time I >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> the Clem to my door, I've spent $2500 with shipping and tax. I'd change >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> bars, add a saddle, add fenders, have the front wheel rebuilt with a >>>>>>> dyno >>>>>>> hub, and so on. I'd easily be into it for $3K or more. My Surly has a >>>>>>> $1400 >>>>>>> rear hub and is easily over the $3K mark. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am lucky enough to have two Rivendell Atlantis and a Hunq. I've >>>>>>> owned several others in the past as well. One of the Atlantis bikes >>>>>>> that I >>>>>>> have would fit the bill. It's the more recent style with the longer >>>>>>> wheelbase & double top tube. These are super sturdy bikes that wouldn't >>>>>>> mind being loaded up and taken to work. I've already got a wheelset >>>>>>> with a >>>>>>> dyno hub and a light lying around here somewhere. I purchased this bike >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> $3K this summer from a local guy. I didn't need the bike but just >>>>>>> couldn't >>>>>>> pass it up as it was so cool! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I thought to myself: I've locked up more expensive bikes at work for >>>>>>> 13 hours or at music venues until the wee hours of the night without >>>>>>> issue, >>>>>>> so why not just do the bulk of my riding on a bike that I truly enjoy >>>>>>> riding? What am I saving it for? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Questions: Is my logic sound? Do you think that riding a nice Riv to >>>>>>> work, to lock it up outside all, day in a city, is a dumb idea? Do you >>>>>>> commute on a Riv that is left outside all day? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *I'd also like to use this as an opportunity to see some of your >>>>>>> commuters. Feel free to post a pic of your daily driver and also, let >>>>>>> us >>>>>>> know if you lock it up outside or not. * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The potential commuter. (I'd change the fenders and bars) >>>>>>> [image: IMG_0630 Medium.jpeg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My current all road bike >>>>>>> [image: IMG_0514 Medium.jpeg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not a commuter. I ride this guy around quite a bit though. >>>>>>> [image: IMG_0570 Medium.jpeg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Surly, although it now has had Jones bars on it for quite some >>>>>>> time. >>>>>>> [image: IMG_0230 Medium.jpeg] >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a55bfa78-d443-4e42-aaa3-b15ca0d2be69n%40googlegroups.com.
