White Industries urban pedals (or MKS equivalents) and half-clips on my 
bikes, including the tandem. Tried Look pedals for a year and, while I like 
the way they felt, I never got comfortable clipping in and clipping out for 
traffic lights etc. Went to half-clips and never regretted it. I like the 
retention half-clips give, as well as the ability to quickly put a foot 
down when needed. And I'm slow enough that whatever efficiency I lose 
compared with clipless probably doesn't matter.
Tom in Alexandria, VA

On Monday, December 25, 2023 at 10:30:08 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I rode with clips and straps for most of my riding years (started I 
> believe with them in the mid ‘70’s on my first 10 speed. I tried clipless 
> in the ‘90’s (frogs) but took a bad spill when I was unable to disengage 
> hurting my leg, and back to clips and straps. After my second back surgery 
> and riding again I took all the clips and straps off of my bikes adding 
> platform pedals. It was a matter of safety so I could put a leg out if 
> needed. I never missed the clips and straps. 
>
> On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 8:44:43 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> First entry in new Blahg. And no, he doesn't; he reports someone's 
>> out-of-context judgment.
>>
>> But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how 
>> many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use 
>> clipless systems -- and what kind.
>>
>> I'll start: I rode fast for years and thousands of miles in Keds with 
>> thick, soft soles and then rubber-soled lace ups of other sorts on 
>> un-clipped rat-trap pedals (and even rubber block pedals) until in about 
>> 1990 I got my first relatively expensive road bike (1989 Falcon, tout 531C 
>> with Sante group) and decided largely because of bike mag content that I'd 
>> better get with the retention program. I started with Bata Bikers and clips 
>> and straps, graduated to clips and straps and slotted cleats, then pretty 
>> quickly switched to the burgeoning varieties of clipless -- Sampson 
>> Stratics, Grafton "Erector Set" road and mtb pedals, Speedplay X1s and 
>> Frogs, Looks of various sorts, and finally SPDs, road and mtb (by "road" I 
>> mean the ones that came out for about 1 season long long ago with the mtb 
>> mechanism). 
>>
>> A couple of years ago I tried platforms with spikes and no-retention 
>> shoes but after about a month of annoyance always shifting my foot to find 
>> the right position I gave up and went back to SPDs. I've got SPDs on all my 
>> bikes though I've got a very nice set of XC Pros + clips and straps + 
>> almost-as-new wood-soled Duegis with cleats that I'd like to try -- I found 
>> slotted cleats with semi-tight straps easier with a fixed drivetrain than 
>> Look Keos -- except that SPDs are so perfect.
>>
>> So, I've round that having gotten used to retention I find it very hard 
>> to give it up. I daresay that this habituation is stronger since so much of 
>> my riding is on fixed drivetrains, but I'd still want at least clips and 
>> loose-ish straps with rubber soles for any freewheel drivetrain.
>>
>> But again, SPDs just feel so perfect that I will probably just stay with 
>> them.
>>
>> Best wishes to all for the Christmas season.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, finishing up a late resume on Xmas eve in ABQ, NM.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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