Re: [RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

[Richard Rose]

My journey is very simple to JS’s but without the mishaps. ‘70’s toe clips & straps (PX10) all the way to clipless. Rode clipless (Speedplay road, mostly eggbeater’s MTB) for years / decades without incident. Decided to give large platforms a try maybe 10 years ago - do not remember why - and have never looked back. I was riding MTB primarily & got bored I think with clipless. I found there to be a learning curve with platforms on rowdy trails & enjoyed the challenge. I cannot imagine ever clipping in again. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2023, at 10:30 AM, J S <jrster...@gmail.com> wrote: I rode with clips and straps for most of my riding years (started I believe with them in the mid ‘70’s on my first 10 speed. I tried clipless in the ‘90’s (frogs) but took a bad spill when I was unable to disengage hurting my leg, and back to clips and straps. After my second back surgery and riding again I took all the clips and straps off of my bikes adding platform pedals. It was a matter of safety so I could put a leg out if needed. I never missed the clips and straps.  On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 8:44:43 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: First entry in new Blahg. And no, he doesn't; he reports someone's out-of-context judgment. But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use clipless systems -- and what kind. I'll start: I rode fast for years and thousands of miles in Keds with thick, soft soles and then rubber-soled lace ups of other sorts on un-clipped rat-trap pedals (and even rubber block pedals) until in about 1990 I got my first relatively expensive road bike (1989 Falcon, tout 531C with Sante group) and decided largely because of bike mag content that I'd better get with the retention program. I started with Bata Bikers and clips and straps, graduated to clips and straps and slotted cleats, then pretty quickly switched to the burgeoning varieties of clipless -- Sampson Stratics, Grafton "Erector Set" road and mtb pedals, Speedplay X1s and Frogs, Looks of various sorts, and finally SPDs, road and mtb (by "road" I mean the ones that came out for about 1 season long long ago with the mtb mechanism).  A couple of years ago I tried platforms with spikes and no-retention shoes but after about a month of annoyance always shifting my foot to find the right position I gave up and went back to SPDs. I've got SPDs on all my bikes though I've got a very nice set of XC Pros + clips and straps + almost-as-new wood-soled Duegis with cleats that I'd like to try -- I found slotted cleats with semi-tight straps easier with a fixed drivetrain than Look Keos -- except that SPDs are so perfect. So, I've round that having gotten used to retention I find it very hard to give it up. I daresay that this habituation is stronger since so much of my riding is on fixed drivetrains, but I'd still want at least clips and loose-ish straps with rubber soles for any freewheel drivetrain. But again, SPDs just feel so perfect that I will probably just stay with them. Best wishes to all for the Christmas season. Patrick Moore, finishing up a late resume on Xmas eve in ABQ, NM. -- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When thou didst not, savage, know thine own meaning, But wouldst gabble like a thing most brutish, I endowed thy purposes with words that made them known. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6581e48c-6b12-48c3-be0b-5f58af4cea9an%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/EB407AD4-2A09-4045-BCE0-073EAD63439D%40gmail.com.