The method works only with chain laced through the rear derailleur. A
half-link's difference won't make any difference as to too short or too
long.

Install the RD, loop chain around big ring, through derailleur, and around
big cog; the rd should be stretched but not to point of binding -- ie, a
tiny bit of for/aft movement still left.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 3:25 PM Brenton Eastman <brenton.east...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Rear Derailleur = Yes.  Mid-cage as stated in original post.
>
> My fear is that I’m offering too-much slack. I only have one quick link.
> I’ll probably mock it up with RD at current length before snapping the
> quick link in place.
>
> On Jan 20, 2024, at 2:21 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Forgot to add: the big/big method is a way of *getting the chain length
> correct for a given derailleur.* For a derailleurless drivetrain you want
> all but very minimum slack removed.
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 3:19 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You want to use the big/big method with derailleur attached, leaving the
>> derailleur stretched but not to near seizing or breaking. A half-link's
>> leeway is no big deal since you'll have a derailleur.
>>
>> Or are you planning a derailleurless multicog bike? (I doubt it but
>> serious question.)
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 1:28 PM Brenton Eastman <
>> brenton.east...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Rear: 11-36, front: 46-34-22
>>>
>>> I'm using the big-big chain sizing method recommended by many. Of course
>>> though when pulling most of the slack, my master link lines up with an
>>> outer link. So instead of adding one link [outer+inner] from the match
>>> point to get my cut point, It's *suggested* to add [inner+outer+inner]
>>> and the chain is looking droopy as hell. Rest assured I will never be in a
>>> big-big situation, ever. My rear derailleur is mid-cage so I'm worried it
>>> won't pick up all the slack I'm affording the chain in scenario 1. I mocked
>>> up a 34F to 11R situation, which I do end up in on mellow downhills, and it
>>> looked crazy loose.
>>>
>>> I cut the chain leaving myself the option to cut again, and took photos.
>>> First pic is as recommended by park tool youtube, pull to nearest
>>> *inner* link, add one extra. Super droopy.
>>>
>>> <IMG_3012.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>> Second pic is mock up of what chain slack would look like if I cut one
>>> more [inner+outer] link out. Still has slack, feels like it wouldn't be a
>>> problem in any normal gearing.
>>>
>>> <IMG_3013.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>> RD arrives in the mail today. If this exercise is foolish until I have
>>> the RD installed, I can be patient. Just curious if anyone has made the
>>> judgement call to only add .5 links instead of 1 full link.
>>>
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