I second Patrick's thoughts on the saddle position -- don't adjust for reach using the saddle position! Rather, get the saddle where you want it and then figure out how to get the bars in the right position.
But, re. the Specialized Hover bars, don't forget that they feature 15mm of rise, while Eitan is finding that his handlebars are already too high! The Specialized Expert Alloy Shallow Bend bar features the same shape and 75mm reach of the Hover, but without the rise... But it remains less than ideal on a Riv because it's available only in black and with a 31.8mm clamp diameter. For that reason, I always return to the Soma Highway One handlebar! Available in silver, and in 26.0mm clamp diameters! (Same 75mm reach as the Specialized bars...) Liz Washington, DC On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 2:27:41 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: > Ethan: Two suggestions: > > 1. Don't use saddle adjustment to adjust your bar. Get your saddle where > it should be for greatest comfort and pedaling efficiency -- saddle height > and setback in relation to the bottom bracket or crank axle is where I > start my setup -- and then determine from saddle position where your bar > should be, and choose stem and bar to suit. > > 2. For the ultimate in shortness and shallowness in a drop bar (narrowness > too, it seems), take a look at the Specialized Hover bar: > https://www.specialized.com/us/en/hover-expert-alloy-handlebars--15mm-rise/p/156001?color=230548-156001 > > It's ugly but it has essentially no ramps because the reach is so short > and it has a very shallow drop *with* a 15 mm rise at the stem clamp. I > used one of these on my erstwhile Medium 2012 Monocog (gave it to a friend) > to get a drop bar more or less comfortable on a frame with (by my road > standard) an immensely too long top tube (59.6 cm versus my preferred 56 or > 57 cm). I tried it with several stems (expensive even with generic MVS or > whatever they were stems), going from 17* 9 cm to 30 or 35* 7 cm. Still a > wee bit far but much, much better. I went thru this bar and stem contortion > because even a Hover bar (mine was 44 cm) a cm or 2 too far away was better > than any non-drop bar I could find. > > > On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 8:14:49 PM UTC-5 Ethan K wrote: > ... I already have the seat forward on the rails, btw. I will swap the > stem this weekend and see how that goes. Next would be handlebars, going > shorter reach and also narrower. (sounds like I shouldn't be afraid of > going even shorter.) I'm currently running a 46cm Noodle, which feels wide > in addition to long. When I swapped bars on the Breezer, I went with > shorter AND narrower, going from 44-42, and both of those changes helped a > lot. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/185d9768-2425-44b0-a2a4-c1aad846ffe2n%40googlegroups.com.