If you, like me, prefer Nitto to all alternatives check out the M151. I 
believe Soma sells that model as well.

On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 5:58:50 PM UTC-5 eitanz...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> You guys have given me multiple good handlebar suggestions! I think I will 
> rule out the Specialized bars though, as they seem to come in black only. 
> That's fine for the Breezer but for this bike, I really want silver.  Looks 
> like both the Ritchey Venturemax and VO Randonneur are both 31.8mm only. 
> The Soma Highway One  is available  in 26mm--so by process of elimination 
> may be the winner...
>
> --Eitan
> Los Angeles
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 2:18:22 PM UTC-8 Elisabeth Sherwood 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, btw, for those who need to find something with absolutely the 
>> shortest reach possible (and are okay with black handlebars and a 31.8mm 
>> handlebar clamp), Specialized "Short Reach" bars have a 65mm reach!  (And 
>> the rest of the lovely shape as the Hover and Shallow Bend handlebars...)  
>> They only come in 36cm, 38cm, and 40cm widths (which probably works fine 
>> for most people who need ridiculously short-reach bars!)
>>
>>
>> https://www.specialized.com/us/en/short-reach-handlebars/p/156040?color=230922-156040
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Liz 
>> Washington DC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 5:13:57 PM UTC-5 Elisabeth Sherwood 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I second Patrick's thoughts on the saddle position -- don't adjust for 
>>> reach using the saddle position! Rather, get the saddle where you want it 
>>> and then figure out how to get the bars in the right position.
>>>
>>> But, re. the Specialized Hover bars, don't forget that they feature 15mm 
>>> of rise, while Eitan is finding that his handlebars are already too high!
>>>
>>> The Specialized Expert Alloy Shallow Bend bar features the same shape 
>>> and 75mm reach of the Hover, but without the rise...  But it remains less 
>>> than ideal on a Riv because it's available only in black and with a 31.8mm 
>>> clamp diameter.
>>>
>>> For that reason, I always return to the Soma Highway One handlebar!  
>>> Available in silver, and in 26.0mm clamp diameters! (Same 75mm reach as the 
>>> Specialized bars...)
>>>
>>> Liz
>>> Washington, DC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 2:27:41 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ethan: Two suggestions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Don't use saddle adjustment to adjust your bar. Get your saddle 
>>>> where it should be for greatest comfort and pedaling efficiency -- saddle 
>>>> height and setback in relation to the bottom bracket or crank axle is 
>>>> where 
>>>> I start my setup -- and then determine from saddle position where your bar 
>>>> should be, and choose stem and bar to suit.
>>>>
>>>> 2. For the ultimate in shortness and shallowness in a drop bar 
>>>> (narrowness too, it seems), take a look at the Specialized Hover bar: 
>>>> https://www.specialized.com/us/en/hover-expert-alloy-handlebars--15mm-rise/p/156001?color=230548-156001
>>>>
>>>> It's ugly but it has essentially no ramps because the reach is so short 
>>>> and it has a very shallow drop *with* a 15 mm rise at the stem clamp. 
>>>> I used one of these on my erstwhile Medium 2012 Monocog (gave it to a 
>>>> friend) to get a drop bar more or less comfortable on a frame with (by my 
>>>> road standard) an immensely too long top tube (59.6 cm versus my preferred 
>>>> 56 or 57 cm). I tried it with several stems (expensive even with generic 
>>>> MVS or whatever they were stems), going from 17* 9 cm to 30 or 35* 7 cm. 
>>>> Still a wee bit far but much, much better. I went thru this bar and stem 
>>>> contortion because even a Hover bar (mine was 44 cm) a cm or 2 too far 
>>>> away 
>>>> was better than any non-drop bar I could find.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 8:14:49 PM UTC-5 Ethan K wrote:
>>>> ...  I already have the seat forward on the rails, btw. I will swap the 
>>>> stem this weekend and see how that goes. Next  would be  handlebars, going 
>>>> shorter reach and also narrower. (sounds like I shouldn't be afraid of 
>>>> going even shorter.) I'm currently running a 46cm Noodle, which feels wide 
>>>> in addition to long. When I swapped bars on the Breezer, I went with 
>>>> shorter AND narrower, going from 44-42, and both of those changes helped a 
>>>> lot.
>>>>
>>>

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