I promise you that Rivendell is flattered that nice people gather themselves to complain about the former-models that Riv no longer makes. It shows a love for Rivendell that most other bike brands don't get. There's no Specialized google group where current Specialized fans are griping about Rockhoppers and Sequoias. All those nostalgic cyclists have bailed on Specialized entirely.
What Rivendell does, and has always done, is build the bikes they want to exist. If you like one and want to buy it, great. If you don't like any of them and buy something else, that's also great. They (Riv) does not care about making money, except to the extent they can keep the lights on and pay their people a modest living wage. They do not care about growth. Actually, they probably have made up their minds that they can't grow. They know exactly how many bikes they can afford to sell, and they plan out making that many bikes. That very limited number of bikes is always going to be "whatever they feel like making". They count on the fact that somebody is going to buy them, and it usually works out for them. The bikes they feel like making are bikes that don't exist anywhere else and/or have never been made before. When they made the Saluki circa 2007, bikes like the Saluki didn't exist. Today, bikes like the Saluki do exist, so Riv doesn't have to make them. The fact that some Riv-fans are nostalgic for former models is touching, but they don't make nostalgia models. If you want a short wheelbase Rivendell, buy a Crust, ride the heck out of it, and be happy. That's what Riv would tell you. The Roaduno is the classic, IMO. They love the idea of a purpose built 3x1 road bike. Nobody...not a single person on earth is pounding on their keyboard complaining that it's hard to find a purpose built 3x1 road bike. There is NO demand for it, but Riv is making it anyway, because they feel like it. If you buy it, great. If you don't, they hope you find something else that you do want to buy. It's perfectly logical for you nostalgic Riv-fans to gripe "they couldve taken that Roaduno money and did a run of traditional short-wheelbase Atlantis!!!!" Yep, they could have. That's not what they felt like doing. My advice to the disappointed is to just let Riv be Riv. Seek out the bikes you like, buy them and ride them. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 9:49:54 AM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com wrote: > I like the bit longer chain stays of my Sam and Saluki as well but that is > as long as I need. > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:01 PM Tim Bantham <tba...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I can relate to this. For me there are pros and cons. For example, the >> Clem I bought a few years ago was intended to be an analog mountain bike. I >> found the long chainstays to be a liability for east coast single track. >> This is especially the case with tight turns and the need to carry the >> bike. If I had to do it all over for the type of MTB riding that I have >> available to me I would go for a bike with shorter stays and a lighter >> frame. That said, I love the longer chainstays on my Sam as compared to a >> regular road/gravel bike. Definitely noticeable on the descents. I ride my >> Sam on dirt roads quite a bit and the long stay really shines in that >> situation. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/P5Cfxk3lrN8/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c173cbd3-3653-48fc-aee1-01d06e8fa243n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c173cbd3-3653-48fc-aee1-01d06e8fa243n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/179740ec-1a1a-470f-8da4-f6737c2d20a7n%40googlegroups.com.
