Jay, Looks awesome! The dark gold and celeste/seafoam bar tape is a combo I didn't think would look good, but I'm a fan!
If you want a more svelte headset solution you can try one of these out: innicycle - Threadless Conversion Headset™ <https://www.innicycle.com/> I used one on an old trek conversion years ago and it worked great. Collin in Bezerkely On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 3:34:52 PM UTC-8 Jay wrote: > I think I finally landed on a saddle, and stem. I've been trying to find > a more comfortable saddle on all bikes for a while now. I tried the C17 on > my Salsa and it was very good. Bought one in orange for the Roadini and I > think it looks decent. Two 1.5hr rides and can confirm it's comfortable. > I ordered a -17 degree stem as I'm using 31.8 bars and a stem adaptor, and > knew where I wanted the bars located and this stem worked out well. > Hopefully this is it for a while! > > If I could go back I would change a few things aesthetically, but not the > parts themselves -- bike rides really nice and I feel good during and after > the ride. > > [image: Roadini 1.jpeg] > > > [image: Roadini 2.jpeg] > On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 11:41:45 AM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Any chance you can post a picture of the rear brake and the tire >> clearance (if any)? >> >> I've been experimenting with the Ass Saver Win Wing Gravel (found someone >> selling them on ebay for $10), and I have to say that it works surprisingly >> well. Easy-on Easy-off. Won't protect your BB bearings but since I'm >> getting around 25K miles on the BB bearings anyway I'm fine with that. >> >> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 11:01:38 AM UTC-8 Jay wrote: >> >>> The build is complete! This is iteration 1a. 1b will occur later this >>> week when I get a new seat post, with 0 setback; and a different stem, 10mm >>> shorter and less rise (that should be very close to the fit I'm looking for >>> on this bike...saddle not at the end of the max line on the rails, as I >>> want it around 5mm closer, then up 1-2mm, and I want to rotate the bars >>> forward a bit to get a better hand position on the hoods). >>> >>> Shout out to C&L Cycles in Montreal, Quebec (Canada). Very helpful and >>> patient with me (e.g., getting the bar tape and gel pad dialled in after >>> good discussion). For any Canadian's out there, definitely check them out >>> for your Riv needs (and thoughtful selection of other bikes, components and >>> accessories). >>> >>> *Colour*: It was a difficult call between this and Sergio Green. I'm >>> happy with my choice in the end. I like the gum hoods, though I initially >>> wanted the black/silver and thought would go well with brown bar tape; >>> maybe in a future iteration. I didn't like the look of these gum hoods >>> with black bar tape, and I've always had black, so I wanted something >>> different that compliments the hoods and looks nice against the frame. >>> This Fizik tape was the best (to me) of what I had looked at. A shade >>> darker would have been good, but this colour is growing on me. When it >>> gets a bit dirty and I think it will improve! I bet the crank would like >>> sweet in silver...I'll leave that for a future iteration, as I wanted to >>> use what I already owned (I ticked this box in spades). >>> >>> *Build*: I wont list out everything as most are clear from the photos >>> below. Wheels are handbuilt; I've had a set of these previously and really >>> liked them. I had the tires already (GKSS 43mm) and they were great on >>> this initial ride (mainly paved, with some gravel that was ride-able); they >>> measure 42.2, and there was plenty more room on the front but not much in >>> the back for anything larger, but these were fine. I had DT shifters on a >>> bike 10 years ago and really enjoyed using them, and I really liked them on >>> today's ride. I'll save the rest of the parts for below. I will add >>> though that I have a second wheel set that I'm going to set up with 30mm >>> fast rubberier road rides to see if I can keep up with my buddy who is >>> faster than me (more to come on this!). >>> >>> *The Ride*: like wow! So much to say, I'm going to forget a whole >>> bunch of things I thought of during the 2hr ride. I'll compare to the >>> Surly Cross Chek I had over a year ago and my Salsa Fargo (replaced the CC, >>> and I love it for unpaved). Carrying the bike upstairs for the first ride, >>> was much lighter than I thought (I have zero complaints with the weight). >>> Minor fit issues aside (soon to be resolved, hopefully), the ride was so >>> smooth, maybe the smoothest bike I've ever had. I had these tires on >>> the Fargo up to now, and over the same surfaces the Roadini really smoothed >>> out the cracks in the pavement, as well as the trails (I felt like I had a >>> little suspension). One of the reasons I initially looked at this bike as >>> an option for a 3rd bike was that the Fargo with 43mm for winter and >>> anytime the road bike wouldn't cut it, was not very enjoyable (harsh, >>> squirly streeing, sluggish). With 2.2's it is amazing and I love it on the >>> trails where I live, but as an all-road / distance bike, I didn't enjoy it. >>> Enter the Roadini. When I stood up to sprint or climb up a hill, it >>> accelerated way better than the Fargo, and a bit better from the CC from >>> what I recall. I was, again, pleasantly surprised with how fast I was >>> moving. Cornering was predictable and neither sluggish or squirly, it just >>> went where I wanted to go with minimal input...while holding its line >>> predictably. The DT shifters were fun. A couple of times I tried to shift >>> with the brake lever and remembered that's a different bike! Shifting was >>> very light touch and I quickly realized this, as I would easily shift two >>> gears when not wanting to...by the end of the ride I felt 75% comfortable >>> using them (and this will only improve). Brake levers felt very good, and >>> the braking power was also very good. I have Ultergra R8000 brakes on my >>> road bike and they are amazing (power and modulation). These are a notch >>> below, but very effective...and they easily clear 43mm tires so who needs >>> discs?! I love my discs on the Fargo, in mud/dirt, but the Roadini does >>> not need discs at all (where I live/ride). I'm so happy to have a rim >>> brake bike that fits 43mm tires. The bars (Whiskey 12F) and 3mm bar tape >>> with gel pad under was perfect for my hands. I like cush, and this set up >>> is really good (for me). The mechanic dialled in the wrap and gel >>> placement with these hoods. The 30F/32R gearing is perfect for the >>> steepest hills where this bike will be ridden. I've went on long enough so >>> I'll stop there. Word of the day - "smooth" :-) >>> >>> [image: image0.jpeg] >>> >>> [image: image1.jpeg] >>> >>> [image: image2.jpeg] >>> >>> [image: image3.jpeg] >>> >>> [image: image4.jpeg] >>> >>> [image: image5.jpeg] >>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 10:39:44 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote: >>> >>>> @Patrick - Leo is a bit more nimble and rigid to a comparably spec'd >>>> Sam. Sam seems a bit more flexy, especially with out of the seat climbing. >>>> Seems like the Sam is all over the place when it comes to steering--my Leo >>>> seems to track way better at low speeds. For context, I've had a million >>>> setups on my Sam during the last 14 years and it's currently running a >>>> flat >>>> bar, 2x8 setup, on 44mm RH tires. My Leo is running a drop bar, 3x8 setup, >>>> and 32mm Pasela TGs.....38mm Shikoros arriving this Wednesday. Sam used to >>>> have the same parts currently on the Leo. I think the differences are very >>>> slight....both bikes are amazing. >>>> >>>> @Jay - Congrats on the purchase--you picked a winner. Like you, I also >>>> purchased a dark gold 57cm frame. I couldn't be happier. Leo is a champ. >>>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 5:32:46 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>> >>>>> Piaw: I'm curious, how light is your Roadini? >>>>> >>>>> More general question to the audience: How does the current Roadini >>>>> differ from the original Sam Hillborne? I owned one of the latter and it >>>>> would be interesting to use this Sam as a gauge for understanding the >>>>> Roadini. >>>>> >>>>> Aside: I'm thinking (just thinking; action may come but later) of >>>>> turning that Libertas into an on-and-offroad beater because I think it >>>>> will >>>>> take a 38 mm tire. The original issue Sam was limited to IIRC 38 or 40 mm >>>>> tires so I hope that this might be a more nimble handling and lighter >>>>> (and >>>>> beater-sh) Sam surrogate. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 8:44 PM Piaw Na <pi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I went with 11s and a single DT shifter (I'm running 1x11) and I >>>>>> treat my Roadini as a gravel bike. It's great. Usually I climb on the >>>>>> road >>>>>> so shifting is not a problem, and descending who cares what gears you're >>>>>> in. But on the few occasions I did a a dirt climb and I'd just shift >>>>>> into >>>>>> the lowest gear and stay there. My goal for the Roadini was to make it >>>>>> as >>>>>> light as possible (given the relatively heavy frame) while still able to >>>>>> do >>>>>> hard climbs. It hasn't disappointed. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:06:45 PM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just curious, if you are using 11sp, why not use integrated >>>>>>> shifters/levers? To each their own for sure, but I can't imagine DT >>>>>>> shifters on a mixed-surface trail unless it's really smooth.. heck, I >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> even care for bar-ends on a trail.. but those RRL levers are super >>>>>>> nice! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm leaning hard into a Roadini that I may put a Campy 10 Triple >>>>>>> group I have on it.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 10:33:55 AM UTC-8 Jay wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First post here! I've been reading some of the threads and this >>>>>>>> sounds like a good place...my new happy place ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I ordered the dark gold Roadini (57) from the only shop in Canada >>>>>>>> that sells Riv (C&L Cycles) and will be picking it up in a few weeks >>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>> I'll be visiting Montreal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looking for this to be a project bike, that evolves over time. For >>>>>>>> now though, I had a lot of new / lightly used parts on hand, so I'll >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> using those and having the bike shop supply the rest (including some >>>>>>>> handbill wheels for some lightly used 43mm GKSS tires I'm using on my >>>>>>>> Fargo >>>>>>>> in the winter). Build will be Shimano 11sp, with DT shifters and >>>>>>>> Tektro >>>>>>>> RRL brake levers, and Tektro brakes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Purpose of the bike is all-road (where I live, a lot of that is >>>>>>>> paved, but there are gravel roads further out), but will not be used >>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>> on local mixed-surface trails (where the Fargo excels). 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