I'm not sure if I have the v1 or v2 but probably the v1 and earlier but 
I've never had slippage.  You do have to line up the square piece when 
installing them and get the plastic washer lined up too but after that it's 
tight enough to hold.  The exploded view that Eric Marth will help show you 
the critical points of contact to line up.  I do know the plastic washers 
break after a while but that's usually when the bike falls and the shifter 
takes most of the force of the fall.

On Friday, March 29, 2024 at 6:56:26 PM UTC-4 ian m wrote:

> I love the look of the Silver1 shifters. IMO they are the platonic ideal 
> whether on downtube or bar-end. Yet I find in my experience the performance 
> refuses to meet the aesthetic quality. Try as I may I can't get the shifter 
> to stay put. Loctite or beeswax, slippage, then over-tightening. There's 
> still no better option than the plastic washer? Hoped the brass bit over 
> the plastic would protect it, no such luck they always crack. I'm tired of 
> trying to make these work. 
>
> Do the newer Silver2 shifters improve in performance where they've... 
> let's just say changed in aesthetics? It reads as though they have the same 
> internals which I would assume is the issue. While they do have a look that 
> maybe only a mother could love I'm willing to give them a shot if it's a 
> noticeable difference.
>
> I am index curious but not sure I'd want to pay the Dura-Ace bar-end price 
> rather than making the all-out switch to brifters. Any thoughts or advice 
> welcome.
>

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