*- "Would they love it as a road bike? Or is it kind of all-purpose? 
Thanks!"*

Rivendell makes stuff to be pretty flexible so even the Roadeo "could" be 
built out to be kind of all-purpose but the geometry and intent of the 
Gallop is to be a road frame that replaces the Roadini. My prototype is 
pretty light and very lively. I assume the production ones will be as well 
because the geometry should be the same it just has a straight bar vs a 
swoop. I think while its not a step through the angled bar will allow it to 
be more flexible with fitting.

On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 11:07:13 AM UTC-4 leva...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Leah!
>
> I think you would dig a Crust Canti-Lightning Bolt as a complementary 
> addition to your wonderful stable of Rivs - not only for the ride quality, 
> but you can get a cool Lilac (with pink graphics) or Light Sea Green frame 
> in your size now.  I own this bike, and it is light, quick, and fun to 
> ride, and can easily accommodate up to a 650B x 48 tire.  But wait there’s 
> more….in older Riv road bike style, the Canti-Bolts have flat top tubes, 
> threaded headsets, and a gorgeous curved fork.  This is a low-trail Rando 
> bike for sure - even the 650B wheels, etc.  This is a fun bike!  I’m a Riv 
> head for sure, but I really enjoy a long faster road ride on the Crust 
> every now and then.  
>
> Crustbikes.com
>
>
> Good luck in your search,
>
> Guy
> On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 7:01:14 AM UTC-6 David Hays wrote:
>
>> Good morning Leah,
>> I’m not sure where I read it but apparently Grant had at one point been a 
>> fan of Mercians.
>> A few years after I bought and built up my 650B Homer I found a used 
>> Mercian KOM on Craigslist. I’ve since picked up another off the list and 
>> had one purpose built for me. Very comfortable and fast. Some thing to 
>> consider.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David 
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2024, at 12:17 AM, Josiah Anderson <anderso...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Leah,
>>
>> I'm also excited to hear about your journey towards a road bike; you 
>> probably don't know it but your writing on this list was one of my main 
>> influences towards ending up with a Riv. Drop bars and pavement are very 
>> familiar, comfortable territory for me, and – like others have said here – 
>> I still enjoy that type of riding at times.
>>
>> You're probably already familiar with him, but if not, I'd recommend 
>> checking out some of Jan Heine's work – Bicycle Quarterly, *The All-Road 
>> Bike Revolution,* his blog, etc. Bicycle Quarterly was my point of 
>> departure from "mainstream" bike culture, and I came around to appreciating 
>> Riv a bit later and now enjoy both approaches for different rides. Jan is 
>> much more focused on speed than Grant is, but in what feels to me like a 
>> healthy way. This is an old blog post that I think may be worth a read, as 
>> it's an articulation of the same sort of perspective you seem to be 
>> arriving at: https://www.renehersecycles.com/riding-fast-is-fun/. Jan 
>> also wrote somewhere (can't find it right now) about how he and Grant are 
>> good friends, and he wanted to make it clear he's not dissing Riv by 
>> promoting what he likes.
>>
>> I currently have two of what I'd call "really nice" bikes, a Gus 
>> Boots-Willsen and a Crust Lightning Bolt (alongside moderately nice bikes 
>> like a Bridgestone MB-3 and a dumpster-find Bianchi Volpe). The Gus is 
>> "full-Riv" – friction shifting, Carradice saddlebag, weird bar wrap, etc – 
>> and the Crust is full Bicycle Quarterly, with 42mm extralight tires, 
>> low-trail geometry, Gilles Berthoud handlebar bag, and all that. (Jan is 
>> not affiliated with Crust, but Crust designed the Lightning Bolt with his 
>> preferences in mind). The two bikes are a perfect combination for my 
>> current riding: there is enough crossover that both work great for 
>> doubletrack rides, and the Gus is ideal for riding singletrack while the 
>> Crust excels at long, fast road and gravel rides. Rivendell doesn't make 
>> randonneur bikes like my Crust, as it sounds to me like they don't like the 
>> lighter-gauge tubing and the handling optimized for drop bars and moderate 
>> front loads, but Grant has written (quoting from memory, so hopefully I'm 
>> pretty close here) that he's glad companies like Crust exist and do 
>> different stuff from Riv. I don't feel like riding my Crust is an insult to 
>> Rivendell, just an expression of the fact that my riding conditions are a 
>> bit different from theirs, though I totally get it if that's how it feels 
>> to you. 
>>
>> I've never ridden a Roadeo or Roadini, but I've ridden a LOT of road race 
>> and "sport-touring" bikes from the 1960s through 2000s, many of which (like 
>> early 80s Trek sport tourers, one of my main rides for a long time) have a 
>> lot of similarities to the Roadeo. I prefer my Crust for several reasons: 
>> it's designed for bigger tires, which when they're René Herse Extralights 
>> are just as fast as 23mm tubulars and far more versatile; it can carry a 
>> big handlebar bag for long rides without compromising handling at all; and 
>> it feels more "alternative" when showing up to group rides, a feeling we're 
>> all used to with Rivendells - but it's still just as fast as the carbon 
>> bikes, unlike my Gus. And the biggest factor is that it's made of 
>> superlight steel tubing, which I like not for the weight savings (less than 
>> a water bottle) but for the flex characteristics – it flexes with each 
>> pedal stroke and feeds it back into the drivetrain, taking away the 
>> pushing-against-a-brick-wall feeling of hammering up a hill on a stiff 
>> bike. Jan calls this "planing," and it's pretty controversial, and others 
>> call it a lively frame, a somewhat less controversial term. My personal 
>> experience says it works – take that however you want. I do not believe the 
>> Roadini would "plane" or be particularly "lively," based on what I've 
>> heard, and the slightly lighter Roadeo might or might not depending on how 
>> much power you're putting down.
>>
>> A classic road bike like the Roadeo is also an aesthetic choice, though, 
>> not just a practical one, and if that's the sort of bike you want, I don't 
>> want to be the one to argue against that! Those sorts of bikes are very 
>> well-proven for many use cases, and fast-paced, shortish (~30 mile) group 
>> rides are certainly one of those.
>>
>> Basically what I'm hoping to say here is that "road bike" can mean many 
>> things, and that Jan Heine's writing has been a huge positive influence on 
>> my riding and maybe could be for you too. Best of luck with the process of 
>> contemplation and decision!
>>
>> Josiah Anderson
>> Missoula MT
>>
>> Le sam. 20 avr. 2024 à 13:33, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell 
>>> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the 
>>> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is 
>>> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great 
>>> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be 
>>> ideal. 
>>>
>>> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a 
>>> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what 
>>> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. 
>>> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>>>
>>> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does 
>>> take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach 
>>> stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out 
>>> of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate 
>>> was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed 
>>> it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m 
>>> the youngest and probably the most fit. 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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