As Tim said, handlebar choice be a big consideration in recommending 
sizing. Upright/alt bars (ie Albatross, Tosco, etc) would give you the most 
flexibility in sizing. Road bars are more finicky. 

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 4:48:44 AM UTC-6 Tim Bantham wrote:

> To add further confusion I ended up sizing down on my Homer that I ordered 
> this past January.  My PBH is 93.5 making it so that I am squarely in the 
> size 61.5 cm range. My Sam is a 62 and the Platypus is a 60. When I 
> compared the geometry of a 61.5 AHH to my 62 Sam I could see that the AHH 
> would have been too long of a reach. I knew that I wanted the AHH to have 
> drop bars so I would have had to go with a short stem in the 5 cm or less 
> range. My AHH has a normal looking 8 cm stem with Noodle bars. Although I 
> am showing a little more seat post then I would like I am perfectly happy 
> with the 58 Homer based on my use case. 
>
> My general recommendation would be to go with the size based on where you 
> PBH falls but I would also consider your handlebar choice. I would also 
> recommend calling Riv HQ to talk you through the final decision. 
>
> The Homer is a great bike by the way. It truly is a magical ride. I love 
> mine!
>
> Tim
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 2:22:55 AM UTC-4 lindse...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Greetings.
>> My PBH is about 87 and I ride a 59 Waterford-built Homer.  I was a little 
>> skeptical when the folks at Rivendell suggested that size, given that my 
>> other bikes are all in the 54-55 cm range, but it worked out very well.  If 
>> memory serves, I had to swap out the stem for something a bit shorter than 
>> usual - I think it has a 70 or 80 mm stem now - but the bike fits me 
>> perfectly.  
>> Kevin Lindsey
>> Alexandria, VA
>> USA
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 7:05:59 AM UTC-4 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I settled on a 58 Homer with the same PBH (FWIW) after speaking with 
>>> Grant.  For me, the bike was a perfect fit…
>>>
>>> Best of luck.
>>>
>>> - Drew
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 12:29 AM, xerox-dream <delac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>> I had a pretty basic question, but wanted everyone’s opinion and 
>>> expertise. I am thinking of getting a 58CM 2019  a homer Hilson my PBH is 
>>> 86 to 86 1/2. currently I’m riding a 55 CM platypus and that’s been great. 
>>> just reaching out if anyone has a similar set up with a similar PBH?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://bikeinsights.com/bike-geometries/5cedbc58663b2d0017aa071d-2019-rivendell-bicycle-works-a-homer-hilsen-mit-58
>>>
>>> i guess this model was 650b compared to newer 700c model for this frame 
>>> size
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