maybe they're offering a lugged Roadini to reduce the demand for lugged 
MN-built Roadeos with their long wait times? And offer another alternative 
to said long(2 years) wait times. Which are now quoted at $3886 CAD; all 
models are quoted in CAD interestingly enough

On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 12:46:30 AM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> Totally agree with you, Paul. I know I'm being picky, but the welds on my 
> Roadini look pretty sloppy. Best believe it's going up for sale just so 
> long as (1) the Lugged Leo has the same snappy ride quality and (2) it 
> comes in blue. Not sure what compelled me to sell my Soma SanMarcos ten 
> years ago, but this would be a great replacement. Keeping my fingers 
> crossed.
>
> Wouldn't it be great if it had the Red/White color scheme like the early 
> Roadeos??  /wishful thinking
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 7:31:24 PM UTC-7 Paul M wrote:
>
>> I purchased a Sergio green Roadini from the last run of framesets. The 
>> tig welding on this frame had some very poor welding beads. Definitely not 
>> what I would expect on a $1300 frame. Maybe it was just this frame, but I 
>> feel that it certainly could have been on the other Roadini's. That could 
>> explain the move to a lugged Roadini frame. I sold it and bought a mustard 
>> Homer (lugged :).
>>
>> On Sunday 5 May 2024 at 18:55:16 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Good info Valerie!  As the reviewer you are noting, yep, I can totally 
>>> see what you mean and I agree that what I was using it for wasn't quite 
>>> right for what it was as a bike. My Hillborne is actually the perfect bike 
>>> for what I was trying to do. 
>>>
>>> I'd bet the production version of the CHG will be less wiggly too, just 
>>> visually going by the diameter of the top tube. I am sure it's still got 
>>> nice springy flex, though. Seems like it's basically a longer wheelbase 
>>> Homer, which seems absolutely perfect for a certain someone who appears to 
>>> already know this bike is perfect for their club ride needs. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday 5 May 2024 at 16:33:07 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>>> Valerie, I would love to hear every single thing you say about this 
>>>> bike. Do you have sweepy bars? Drop bars? Have you ridden it on a club 
>>>> ride? Do you find it to be quick and lively? What was the reason you 
>>>> bought 
>>>> your Charlie? 
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know why the lugged Roadini, either. Anyone know?
>>>> Leah
>>>>
>>>> On May 5, 2024, at 7:00 PM, Valerie Yates <vya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just finished tweaking the set up on my 2022 Gallop demo - purple 
>>>> with swoop tube, non-canti version. It rides like a dream. Super silky and 
>>>> nimble. One mistake I had made was to install a heavy duty pannier rack on 
>>>> it. It made the bike feel very noodley. I was tempted to sell it. I think 
>>>> that's why this reviewer 
>>>> <https://www.jasonmytail.com/75-day-700km-review-rivendell-charlie-h-gallop/>
>>>>  
>>>> complained about its flex. He shows it with the same rack I initially had 
>>>> on it. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I switched to a top rack, since it was only being used for my tail 
>>>> light and lock, everything came together. Now, I love it for unloaded 
>>>> riding on rough and hilly local roads. I have a huge smile whenever I am 
>>>> riding it. So just chiming in with a note of caution in setting it up for 
>>>> its intended purpose. It is not meant as a loaded touring bike and, even 
>>>> without a load, a rack that is too stiff will impact its performance. 
>>>>  Can't wait to see the set-ups on the production models. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 2:44:51 PM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious about the whole lugged Roadini thing now. The Susie I 
>>>>> understand because its a cost/time of manufacture thing but in the case 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> the Roadini it basically is just upping the cost. Unless the feeling is 
>>>>> that a lugged model will just sell better regardless of a higher price.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw the mention of the lugged Roadini. I am 99% certain I will 
>>>>>> order one once they become available. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 3:17:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Your friend would be *more* thrilled if this bike was coming in 
>>>>>>> July or something. Like, during riding season!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I concede that this would be better!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 10:12:37 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your friend would be *more* thrilled if this bike was coming in 
>>>>>>>> July or something. Like, during riding season!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 12:22:45 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doug, 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My understanding (which may be wrong, my memory for stuff I read a 
>>>>>>>>> while ago seems to have left me as I recently approached my 62nd 
>>>>>>>>> birthday) 
>>>>>>>>> is the CHG will also be lugged and probably not cheap. It will be 
>>>>>>>>> longer-stayed than the Roadini. It's coming September! I know at 
>>>>>>>>> least one 
>>>>>>>>> friend of ours who will be thrilled with this news. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 9:04:26 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Grant's most recent Blahg mentioned the frame schedule and the 
>>>>>>>>>> upcoming *Lugged *Roadini. It seems the Charlie H Gallup may 
>>>>>>>>>> replace the Roadini as the partially lugged more affordable road 
>>>>>>>>>> bike. I 
>>>>>>>>>> appreciate the cream colored head tubes and full lugs but I also 
>>>>>>>>>> really 
>>>>>>>>>> like my solid Mermaid Roadini so I don't feel like I'm missing out. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Will the Charlie H Gallup be longer than the Roadini? If so, I do 
>>>>>>>>>> think it might work better for me but we shall see. For those 
>>>>>>>>>> waiting for 
>>>>>>>>>> the CHG, Grant lists them as coming in September.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>>>>
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