I’m 6’1 with a 91 PBH. My 60 Appaloosa fits perfectly with swept back bars. I had a 61.5 Homer (newer one, for which the top tube is really long) and it was way too much reach for drops for me (long legs, short torso, not particularly flexible). I replaced the 61.5 Homer with a 58 and the fit is perfect with 48cm noodles and a 7cm Tallux. I also have a 61 Roadini which fits well, but there is almost too much stack, as there is not much stem showing. I guess to summarize, it’s not always easy to find a bike in Rivs’s lineup that can accommodate both swept back bars and drops interchangeably. If you’re cool with drops on a stubby stem and less standover, size up. If you’re cool with swept backs on a long stem and more seatpost showing, size down.
Bones On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > I find Rivendells sizing based on PBH to oversimplify getting a good bike > fit. They are very smart but they also have their preferences and I think > most of the time their suggestions lean on that preference more than it > should. The smaller size will be way easier to fit with drops if you really > think that will be something you want to do. I agree that you "could" make > a larger one work too but IMO its easier to get a sweptback setup to work > on a smaller frame than it is to get a dropdown setup to work on a frame > thats a touch big. If it were me and I rode a 57 and was comfortable on it > with sweptback bars then I would go for that one. BUT the best situation is > to find a 60 and give it a ride. > > On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 7:56:00 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote: > >> My recommendation is to go with the 60 Sam. You said you want to ride >> with swept back bars and use it for mostly commuting and general riding. >> Based on your described use case I'd say go with the 60 all day long. If >> someday you want to ride the Sam with drops you could still do so with a >> short stem. >> >> My PBH is 93.5. I ride a 62 Sam and a 58 MIT Homer. The only reason I >> sized down was because my focus for the Homer was going to be a drop bar >> road bike for sporty riding. The 61.5 Homer would have been too much reach >> for my situation. >> >> >> >> On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 2:06:45 AM UTC-4 David B wrote: >> >>> Hey all, first time posting here. I'm planning on grabbing a Sam >>> Hillborne frameset when they go on sale this month. It'll be my first >>> Rivendell. I decided on the Hillborne as a replacement for my 56cm Cross >>> Check, which has never been comfortable for me. The short headtube puts the >>> bars too far below my saddle. >>> >>> I have a pair of Billie bars I'd like to put on the Hillborne for daily >>> commuting, grocery getting, and some light off road riding. I'd also like >>> to have the option to use drop bars at some point down the line. >>> >>> I went to the Rivendell shop a few weeks ago to test ride a few bikes >>> and get sized. I'm 6' with a 92 PBH (long legs, short torso), and based on >>> the Sam geo chart, my PBH puts me firmly in the size 60 Sam range. They >>> didn't have a 60 Hillborne around, so I instead rode a 57 Sam and a couple >>> of 61.5 Homers with different cockpit setups. >>> >>> - The 57 Sam was set up with wide, swept back bars (Ron's Ortho >>> bars) and was comfortable. We did have to raise the seatpost up pretty >>> high >>> to get the saddle in a good position. >>> - The first 61.5 Homer was set up with Billie bars and was also >>> comfortable. The saddle was pretty close to the top tube, however - >>> there >>> was maybe a little less than a fistful of seatpost showing. >>> - The second 61.5 Homer with drops made me feel a little stretched >>> out. The saddle was raised up higher than ideal for my height, but the >>> bike >>> belonged to a staff member who wasn't around that day, and so we didn't >>> adjust the saddle position. Part of me thinks it might have worked with >>> a >>> lower saddle, shorter stem, and higher bars, but I'm not totally sure. >>> >>> I left feeling like a 60 Sam would work for me, but I'm now second >>> guessing whether it makes more sense to go down to the 57 for a shorter top >>> tube length. However, the size 57 Sam has a suggested PBH range of 86-89, >>> which is 3cm lower than my PBH of 92. >>> >>> Could anyone share if you've had a similar experience being in-between >>> sizes for a Sam Hillborne, and how the size you chose worked out? Or better >>> yet, is there anyone near Berkeley who has a 57cm or 60cm Hillborne you'd >>> let me test ride to nail down my size? I'd be happy to buy you a beer or >>> some other beverage as a thank you! >>> >>> David >>> Berkeley, CA >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/450c95c8-fdc0-4f6a-b8d2-6e17c46e0b56n%40googlegroups.com.
