Joe - Thanks for the additional pictures and info.  It is a lovely and 
interesting bike that sounds like a fun ride. I wonder how it compares to 
the upcoming Gallop. I am curious but it is out of my price range at 
present. 
On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 7:43:36 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Hey, I found pics with the 7-spd stuff! 
>
> [image: Screenshot_20240509_064218.jpg]
> [image: Screenshot_20240509_064229.jpg]
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 6:40:44 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> [image: Screenshot_20240509_063907.jpg][image: 
>> Screenshot_20240509_063951.jpg]
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 6:16:25 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Valerie! I'm posting the geometry/tubing mockup Riv sent me which 
>>> hopefully will answer some questions, I still need to get a current photo 
>>> set put together this weekend. 
>>>
>>> The tubing is on the lighter side, I would say somewhere between Roadeo 
>>> and Roadini; I've never ridden a Sam so can't compare to that one. 
>>>
>>> It's long and feels it. At my weight (175 now, closer to 200 for most of 
>>> the time I've owned it) it has a slight suspension-like ride which is 
>>> amazingly comfortable. 
>>>
>>> Saddle height in pics is 69cm. I'll get more information and pics for 
>>> you soon. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot_20221117_163140.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 6:05:35 AM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Joe! I am as surprised as everyone  and also impressed how you are 
>>>> constantly assessing what works for you and where you want to be. I would 
>>>> love to see more pics, including the current drivetrain, the handlebar 
>>>> stem 
>>>> area, and the seatpost with height measurement without a bag on it. I love 
>>>> the idea of a fatter tired road-oriented drop tube bike. Is the tubing 
>>>> like 
>>>> Roadini or more like Sam (more stout)? Is the length like Roadini or is it 
>>>> one of the longer models? From the pic, it looks possibly similar in shape 
>>>> to the new Gallop but the tubing and length look more traditional (apart 
>>>> from, the snazzy drop tube and high-viz handlebars). What does it feel 
>>>> like 
>>>> to ride compared to your other Rivs? At my lower weight than yours, I 
>>>> wonder if this would be a good gravel/climbing bike (slot currently filled 
>>>> by a 53 Atlantis, old style). 
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 6:02:44 AM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If the Clem satisfies your needs I understand why you'd sell the 
>>>>> custom. Life throws curve balls at times and forces us to make hard 
>>>>> decisions. So, no second guessing here from me. Just be careful riding a 
>>>>> motorcycle! I love two wheels but not at 60+ mph. :)
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 6:56:53 AM UTC-4 Mathias Steiner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you sell it, you'll kick yourself later, I'm sure. And we'll have 
>>>>>> to listen to it ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you ride it, it's a custom.
>>>>>> To anyone else, it's a well-made used bicycle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Save up for the motor bike, and watch for deals. 
>>>>>> Unlike a motorcycle, your bicycle doesn't cost anything just sitting 
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers -mathias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 1:40:28 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill, 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not convinced the custom will sell at a price I can live with so 
>>>>>>> there's every possibility it shall remain with me. Selling the Clem 
>>>>>>> would 
>>>>>>> be a possibility but there's not much money in it, I'm not sure it 
>>>>>>> would be 
>>>>>>> worth the trouble. Also I just really like the Clem, I love the color 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> its utilitarian non-precious vibe. The truth is if I had known in 2018 
>>>>>>> what 
>>>>>>> my riding preferences and mileage would be at 62-years-old I would heve 
>>>>>>> just kept the Clem.L I had then and been happy. Who knew?? 🤷
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 1:07:53 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are the chances you'll leave it out there, change your mind 
>>>>>>>> and sell the Clem instead?  That's the outcome I'm rooting for.  A 
>>>>>>>> Rivendell custom is Grant creating a one-of-a-kind bike just for you.  
>>>>>>>> A 
>>>>>>>> Clem is fungible.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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