I've not used a first-gen DA FD, but I have used a 7400 and a 740n --
either 01 or 02; I think it's the latter. Again, it shifts very well over a
44/28 and also did so ove a 38/24.

Now, I may simply be less demanding about FD performance; and I don't shift
the front a great deal (my setups since the 2X9 on the Fargo are 1X +
granny) but when I do shift the front, I don't have any more problems than
I had with more typical road doubles or old-time mtb tripls.

I do have a chain catcher mounted to the chainstay just aft of the bb to
prevent chain suck, but I first installed that on the Fargo with the
46/36/24 triple when I was having chainsuck problems; I've not had that
problem with the 2Xs.

To sum up and answer your question directly re the 1st-gen DA FD: I guess
it will work fine. But if you ask me in court, I'll deny everything.

Good luck! And keep us informed.

On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 1:16 PM Robert Calton <ncal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Patrick! I saw a really nice bottom pull DA front mech used on
> eBay, first gen
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/156203422002?itmmeta=01HXMGZA1GWNBSX67S31YDQ76P&hash=item245e731132:g:n34AAOSw~59licD5&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAABEF1YcKCwhxvKTsO9pDaGLqEXCL0Zi0kr4wWrhnmkXjTQ2DnCoH2NdAhg7jvIOaNU%2BDO%2B1iOqOy1Mo%2FY0SQofRIqFYHaL9YHrRUAiJDD1GC0OvjtIe0ZVNzEUywGtzFUS5AN19PPQQM0iCrSseVeaxlRJ%2BH1NkJkLh4eT6Pe858pxyG92ZQmkqvsPbPmunr9Erlc40hS3bat4nMl1FFYG5Su3gSBAbk5YwwJj3681dYYD%2FKfndZlcixKY7m6bPtuHcIS9s3dVFNUnFrFam0E%2FFKWNxIDN%2F8Z31DgEyMDXRPQjXvJijx5FBXP4EtaA2hMWmnfebdUiI3Wy6whpTfUGDpFDixjJxbrYTgDIxWgNs%2F8D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-qg_ZDtYw>,
> and it says it has a 16T capacity. Since I'm at 14T differential on my
> front chainrings (38-24),  would this work? Does me running 11-36 cassette
> have anything to do with the front derailleur choice?
>
> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 2:54:01 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Robert: About 10 years ago I swapped out a 3X7 drivetrain on my 2010
>> Fargo for a 2X9. The 3X7 consisted of 46/36/24 rings pulling (iirc) a 15-24
>> 7sp cassette, and I swapped that out for a 38/24 X something-like 13-26 9
>> speed (29 1/2" Schwalbe Big Apples, then ditto Big Ones).
>>
>> The derailleurs were both LX of the period. When I converted the
>> chainrings I simply swapped the 46 outer for a (BBG) bashguard, swapped the
>> 36 for a 38, and adjusted the FD throw limit screw. I did *not* change
>> the position of the FD on the seat tube. After all, the FD shifted the
>> 36/24 properly in that position, and it's not surprising that it shifted
>> the 38/24 properly in the same position.
>>
>> Later I swapped the LX FD for an ancient Dura Ace FD which I did mount a
>> bit lower, but for the bottom of the cage to clear the chainstay as well as
>> for the lower edge of the cage to clear the (IIRC, 48 t-size) bash guard,
>> the FD had to be placed much where it would have been placed for a
>> 46/36/24. The DA FD worked just as well as the LX. Again, 38/24 X 15-24 (or
>> close) drivetrain.
>>
>> Nowadays, I have a 44/28 wide-range "subcompact" setup and the same DA FD
>> positioned high enough above the 44 to clear the 48-t-equivalent bashguard;
>> here too front shifts are just fine.
>>
>> FWIW.
>>
>> Matthews "road bike for dirt" with 42/28 (before I installed the 44) and
>> Dura Ace 740-something FD. There must be close to an inch of gap between
>> the bottom of the outer FD cage plate and the top of the teeth of the 42 t
>> ring:
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 12:35 PM Robert Calton <nca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon group! :) Hoping to tap into the collective wisdom here
>>> to pick a front derailleur for my Homer build, it's the last piece!
>>>
>>> I'll be using the Silver 38/24 crankset, 11-36 cassette with the Shimano
>>> Deore XT M761 rear derailleur. I saw that the matching XT front says it's
>>> for a triple chainring, so I need to find something that's for a double.
>>>
>>> What would folks recommend?
>>>
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