I was born in New Mexico (Socorro) and attended college at the
University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, so I think I'm pretty
familiar with both Tucson (where I've lived for 30 years) and
Albuquerque.  Tucson is quite a bit hotter than Albuquerque during the
summer, and correspondingly milder during the winter.  We don't, for
example, get any snow in a typical winter, and temperatures below zero
are unheard of in Tucson (not so in Albuquerque, I can assure you!).
Tucson is at an elevation of 2,548 feet compared to Albuquerque at
5,352 feet - both measured at their respective airports (Albuquerque
is one of the highest elevation major cities in the U.S.).  That's a
significant difference, and it certainly effects the weather patterns
of both cities quite a lot.

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

On Jun 15, 12:46 pm, tarik saleh <tariksa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This cracks me up. Patrick you should know better!
>
> I think albuquerque and Tuscon as far as climate and demographics are
> pretty damn close to being the same place. Same number of people
> mostly, same deserty (well sonoran vs chihuahuan desert, but still)
> climate with nearby mountains. Tucson is lower in altitude, but not
> too much.  So, uh, tucson meet your long lost brother albuquerque,
> albuquerque meet your long lost brother tuscon.
> As Jim points out, tuscon is a bit wetter and hotter, but not really
> much. But Patrick, you could probably move to tuscon and not notice
> you weren't in albuquerque for a bit. Good stuff.
>
> Tarik
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer?
>
> > Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the
> > summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and
> > lasts through September.  (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches,
> > compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches).  During this monsoon period
> > the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that
> > evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air.  This is also
> > during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures
> > (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9).  The increase in humidity
> > attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our
> > "Dog days of Summer".
>
> > Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual
> > apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter
> > weight synthetic jersey for cycling.  I have started recently wearing
> > a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very
> > comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset).  The only
> > problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar.  I've
> > never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably
> > work well.
>
> > The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of
> > summer is avoidance.  This means out of bed and on the cycle around
> > sunrise, or very late in the day.  Unfortunately, I have apnea, so
> > springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I
> > try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the
> > day.
>
> > Jim Cloud
> > Tucson, AZ
>
> > On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> > Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during
> >> > the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys.  I have a number of
> >> > nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our
> >> > summer weather.
>
> >> Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when
> >> humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly
> >> comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I
> >> have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully
> >> and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer
> >> knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days
> >> I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for
> >> ventilation.
>
> >> I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new
> >> technical plastic fabrics.
>
> >> > Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the
> >> > moisture away (while providing some cooling).  I have several lighter
> >> > weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau
> >> > and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool
> >> > jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October).
> >> > They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and
> >> > dry them in the dryer.  No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the
> >> > garment or anything like that.
>
> >> I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction 
> >> knickers
> >> -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them.
>
> >> > I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in
> >> > New Zealand as a summer weight jersey.  Their "Slingshot" model, with
> >> > polyester and a cotton outer layer looks very nice for our weather.
> >> > Here's a link:
> >> >http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-SLI-SUM.htm
>
> >> > Jim Cloud
> >> > Tucson, AZ
>
> >> > On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> > > When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional for
> >> > > me.  Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the
> >> > > thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions.  Although my
> >> > > Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of
> >> > > weather and I've lived to tell the tale.
>
> >> > > Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt
> >> > > St. Paul, MN
>
> >> > > On Jun 14, 6:10 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was
> >> > braking a
> >> > > > cycling rule.
>
> >> > > > Shame on me!
>
> >> > > > Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. Like 'em a lot! A bit longer
> >> > than
> >> > > > MUSA shorts, which is a plus. I think the MUSAs have better material
> >> > and
> >> > > > more bar stitches though.
>
> >> > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > I've used this very same line, "Don't sheep have to wear wool year
> >> > round?"
> >> > > > > Wool works great when it's hot. It dissipates sweat better and
> >> > doesn't
> >> > > > > abrade sensitive skin areas like micro fiber can. I usually wear 
> >> > > > > wool
> >> > shorts
> >> > > > > too, but had on ZOIC MTBs this time.
>
> >> > > > > ------------------------------
> >> > > > > *From:* cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> >> > > > > *Sent:* Mon, June 14, 2010 5:04:09 PM
>
> >> > > > > *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..
>
> >> > > > > Ahhhh, I get it.
>
> >> > > > > Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? What's wrong with wool 
> >> > > > > when
> >> > it's
> >> > > > > hot (presuming it's thin like Swobo is)?
>
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