I was born in New Mexico (Socorro) and attended college at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, so I think I'm pretty familiar with both Tucson (where I've lived for 30 years) and Albuquerque. Tucson is quite a bit hotter than Albuquerque during the summer, and correspondingly milder during the winter. We don't, for example, get any snow in a typical winter, and temperatures below zero are unheard of in Tucson (not so in Albuquerque, I can assure you!). Tucson is at an elevation of 2,548 feet compared to Albuquerque at 5,352 feet - both measured at their respective airports (Albuquerque is one of the highest elevation major cities in the U.S.). That's a significant difference, and it certainly effects the weather patterns of both cities quite a lot.
Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jun 15, 12:46 pm, tarik saleh <tariksa...@gmail.com> wrote: > This cracks me up. Patrick you should know better! > > I think albuquerque and Tuscon as far as climate and demographics are > pretty damn close to being the same place. Same number of people > mostly, same deserty (well sonoran vs chihuahuan desert, but still) > climate with nearby mountains. Tucson is lower in altitude, but not > too much. So, uh, tucson meet your long lost brother albuquerque, > albuquerque meet your long lost brother tuscon. > As Jim points out, tuscon is a bit wetter and hotter, but not really > much. But Patrick, you could probably move to tuscon and not notice > you weren't in albuquerque for a bit. Good stuff. > > Tarik > > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote: > >> Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? > > > Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the > > summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and > > lasts through September. (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches, > > compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches). During this monsoon period > > the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that > > evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air. This is also > > during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures > > (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9). The increase in humidity > > attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our > > "Dog days of Summer". > > > Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual > > apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter > > weight synthetic jersey for cycling. I have started recently wearing > > a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very > > comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset). The only > > problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar. I've > > never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably > > work well. > > > The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of > > summer is avoidance. This means out of bed and on the cycle around > > sunrise, or very late in the day. Unfortunately, I have apnea, so > > springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I > > try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the > > day. > > > Jim Cloud > > Tucson, AZ > > > On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote: > >> > Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during > >> > the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of > >> > nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our > >> > summer weather. > > >> Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when > >> humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is perfectly > >> comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, tho' I > >> have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture wonderfully > >> and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer > >> knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days > >> I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, for > >> ventilation. > > >> I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new > >> technical plastic fabrics. > > >> > Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the > >> > moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter > >> > weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau > >> > and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool > >> > jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October). > >> > They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and > >> > dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the > >> > garment or anything like that. > > >> I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction > >> knickers > >> -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them. > > >> > I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in > >> > New Zealand as a summer weight jersey. Their "Slingshot" model, with > >> > polyester and a cotton outer layer looks very nice for our weather. > >> > Here's a link: > >> >http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-SLI-SUM.htm > > >> > Jim Cloud > >> > Tucson, AZ > > >> > On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote: > >> > > When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional for > >> > > me. Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the > >> > > thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions. Although my > >> > > Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of > >> > > weather and I've lived to tell the tale. > > >> > > Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt > >> > > St. Paul, MN > > >> > > On Jun 14, 6:10 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was > >> > braking a > >> > > > cycling rule. > > >> > > > Shame on me! > > >> > > > Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. Like 'em a lot! A bit longer > >> > than > >> > > > MUSA shorts, which is a plus. I think the MUSAs have better material > >> > and > >> > > > more bar stitches though. > > >> > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > > > > I've used this very same line, "Don't sheep have to wear wool year > >> > round?" > >> > > > > Wool works great when it's hot. It dissipates sweat better and > >> > doesn't > >> > > > > abrade sensitive skin areas like micro fiber can. I usually wear > >> > > > > wool > >> > shorts > >> > > > > too, but had on ZOIC MTBs this time. > > >> > > > > ------------------------------ > >> > > > > *From:* cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> > > > > *Sent:* Mon, June 14, 2010 5:04:09 PM > > >> > > > > *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow.. > > >> > > > > Ahhhh, I get it. > > >> > > > > Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? What's wrong with wool > >> > > > > when > >> > it's > >> > > > > hot (presuming it's thin like Swobo is)? > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> > > > > To post to this group, send email to > >> > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >> > <rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > >> > > > > . > >> > > > > For more options, visit this group at > >> > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > Cheers, > >> > > > David > >> > > > Redlands, CA > > >> > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is > >> > something > >> > > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill > >> > > > Nye, > >> > > > scientist guy- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > - Show quoted text - > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > >> > . > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> Patrick Moore > >> Albuquerque, NM > >> For professional resumes, contact > >> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Tarik Saleh > tas at tariksaleh dot com > in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com > all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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