> Might try a Swobo if our local dealer gets them in.

Here is the one I am talking about. Typical Swobo, It at least appears
to be the toughest in the bunch.  Someone complains about the swobo
patch sewn inside near the bottom.  I never notice it.

http://www.swobo.com/catalog/product_info_m.php?cPath=1523&products_id=741

The ultra fine merino wool is signicantly lighter than any wool
product I have to date.

On Jun 15, 2:47 pm, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
> Have not seen those.  Might try a Swobo if our local dealer gets them
> in.  The lightest ones I own are the NZ versions from Rivendell, in
> blue.  Both sleeved and sleeveless.  The latter only if I'm wearing a
> seersucker top over it.
>
> Somehow, I end up reacting to heat different than others.  Just ask
> the folks on the SoCal Riv Ride last August.  Nearly collapsed due to
> dehydration and that was after consuming 2 water bottles on the ride.
> Luckily Derek had a spare bottle to loan while we were on Coronado.
> Ugh.  Still can't figure that out.  Thanks again for that ride.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Jun 15, 2:28 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Outlier, Swobo and Swerve all make tee-shirts (Outlier a polo shirt as
> > well) out of the new very light merino wool weaves available.
>
> > I have one from each and have worn them all on some hot humid days
> > here in Chicago with no complaints at all.
>
> > None of them come in classic loud -LOOKATME- cycling jersey designs if
> > that is your thing.
>
> > On Jun 15, 2:21 pm, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer?
>
> > > Actually, Tucson receives half of its annual rainfall during the
> > > summer in a monsoonal 108-day period that starts in late June and
> > > lasts through September.  (Tucson's annual rainfall is 12.17 inches,
> > > compared to Albuquerque's 9.47 inches).  During this monsoon period
> > > the humidity, while not obviously subtropical, is sufficient high that
> > > evaporative coolers don't do much except stir the air.  This is also
> > > during the months that Tucson has our highest average temperatures
> > > (July 86.5, August 84.9, September 80.9).  The increase in humidity
> > > attendant with the heat is quite sufficient to make those months our
> > > "Dog days of Summer".
>
> > > Cotton is definitely the material of choice for general casual
> > > apparel, however I still prefer the wicking properties of a lighter
> > > weight synthetic jersey for cycling.  I have started recently wearing
> > > a lighter weight cotton T for some riding, and found it very
> > > comfortable late in the day (about an hour before sunset).  The only
> > > problem with a T is the lack of ability to open up the collar.  I've
> > > never tried a seersucker or Hawaiian shirt, but those would probably
> > > work well.
>
> > > The best strategy for riding in Tucson during the most intense heat of
> > > summer is avoidance.  This means out of bed and on the cycle around
> > > sunrise, or very late in the day.  Unfortunately, I have apnea, so
> > > springing out of bed at 5:00 a.m. doesn't usually work for me, so I
> > > try to complete any summer rides before 9:00 a.m. or ride late in the
> > > day.
>
> > > Jim Cloud
> > > Tucson, AZ
>
> > > On Jun 15, 4:25 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Jim Cloud <cloud...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during
> > > > > the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys.  I have a number of
> > > > > nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our
> > > > > summer weather.
>
> > > > Isn't Tucson bone dry in summer? Here, where everyone complains when
> > > > humidity soars to 30% and it is often well below 10%, cotton is 
> > > > perfectly
> > > > comfortable in hot weather -- I can't stand wool at much above 65F, 
> > > > tho' I
> > > > have yet to try a very lightweight top. Cotton absorbs moisture 
> > > > wonderfully
> > > > and, in low humidity it dries quickly. Does not chafe, either. I prefer
> > > > knits -- T shirts and polos -- to woven fabricm tho' on the hottest days
> > > > I'll use a loose Hawaiian shirt tail out, buttoned only in the middle, 
> > > > for
> > > > ventilation.
>
> > > > I must try: (1) extremely lightweight merino and (2) one of those new
> > > > technical plastic fabrics.
>
> > > > > Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the
> > > > > moisture away (while providing some cooling).  I have several lighter
> > > > > weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau
> > > > > and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool
> > > > > jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October).
> > > > > They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and
> > > > > dry them in the dryer.  No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the
> > > > > garment or anything like that.
>
> > > > I wash my woolens -- knit merino tops, dress-pant-type-construction 
> > > > knickers
> > > > -- in the wash; I just use Kookabura and air dry them.
>
> > > > > I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in
> > > > > New Zealand as a summer weight jersey.  Their "Slingshot" model, with
> > > > > polyester and a cotton outer layer looks very nice for our weather.
> > > > > Here's a link:
> > > > >http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-SLI-SUM.htm
>
> > > > > Jim Cloud
> > > > > Tucson, AZ
>
> > > > > On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional 
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > me.  Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the
> > > > > > thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions.  Although my
> > > > > > Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of
> > > > > > weather and I've lived to tell the tale.
>
> > > > > > Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt
> > > > > > St. Paul, MN
>
> > > > > > On Jun 14, 6:10 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was
> > > > > braking a
> > > > > > > cycling rule.
>
> > > > > > > Shame on me!
>
> > > > > > > Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. Like 'em a lot! A bit 
> > > > > > > longer
> > > > > than
> > > > > > > MUSA shorts, which is a plus. I think the MUSAs have better 
> > > > > > > material
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > more bar stitches though.
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > I've used this very same line, "Don't sheep have to wear wool 
> > > > > > > > year
> > > > > round?"
> > > > > > > > Wool works great when it's hot. It dissipates sweat better and
> > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > abrade sensitive skin areas like micro fiber can. I usually 
> > > > > > > > wear wool
> > > > > shorts
> > > > > > > > too, but had on ZOIC MTBs this time.
>
> > > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > > > *From:* cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > > > *Sent:* Mon, June 14, 2010 5:04:09 PM
>
> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides 
> > > > > > > > tomorrow..
>
> > > > > > > > Ahhhh, I get it.
>
> > > > > > > > Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? What's wrong with 
> > > > > > > > wool when
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > hot (presuming it's thin like Swobo is)?
>
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