Heartbreaking, yes. I was so excited for my brother when he texted that his 
new frame was supposed to arrive. We generally talk several times a week 
and seldom about much more than bikes, bike parts, bike rides, and bike 
projects. Yes, it's definitely a "First-World" problem, but I was really 
upsetting to hear him so disappointed.

Careful measurements of several most-comfortable reference bikes including 
two different 58cm Rivendell Atlantis and a 54cm Rivendell Sam Hillborne 
were supplied.I think the difference between expectation and reality was a 
result of different philosophies in how a bike should fit.  I don't think 
it's fair to dictate to a builder "this is how you should make my bike." 

I had a very similar experience years ago when I ordered a custom Waterford 
touring frame.  At the time, almost every professional bike fitter that I 
worked with said I should be on a 56 or *maybe* a 58cm frame. When I worked 
with Grant on the order of my first custom, I was floored by the idea that 
he was designing a 60cm frame for me. My Waterford was beautiful and I 
tried to make it work for years before eventually setting up a 61cm 
Atlantis.  

Turn around time: it's been about 3 months since my brother shared the news 
that he had ordered the Ebisu. He's a very humble guy (one of the many 
things I love about him) and doesn't like to brag about acquisitions. So, 
I'd imagine one could pad that time a bit depending.  

On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 5:48:10 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Golly that's gorgeous and kind of heartbreaking, the thought of ordering a 
> custom Ebisu and it doesn't fit.  Were mistakes made on the front end? 
>  Ordering the wrong dimensions?  
>
> Since it was acquired recently, what was the turnaround time?  A year? 
>  Less?  More?  I ride by the shop frequently and think about getting a 
> custom built...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 2:56:00 PM UTC-7 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
>> Brand new un-ridden Ebisu all-purpose frame, fork, and custom front rack 
>> $2,850 
>>
>> Chain slap guard, internal wiring for dynamo, fender mounts, and 
>> accommodations for wide 700c tires.
>> [image: Full Bike.jpg]
>>
>> *Size information:* Seat tube 56.5cm center-to-center, Top tube 56cm, 
>> Standover height 82.5cm with a 700c x 44mm tire. 130mm rear spacing.
>>
>> The seller is my brother and avid Rivendell enthusiast / multiple 
>> Rivendell bike owner.  In fact, I think that is why the bar is set so high 
>> *(pardon 
>> the pun)* and the reason behind the sale.  The newly ordered frame is 
>> too small, particularly compared with the fit of his other bikes. I'd be 
>> all about buying instead of sharing if we weren't almost identically sized 
>> :D
>>
>> More photos and details can be found in the Craigslist listing here:
>> https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/bik/d/stillwater-2024-ebisu-all-
>> purpose-frame/7759855686.html
>>
>>

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