I agree, it seems likely that your FD is rotated just a wee bit. I'm not 
familiar with "indexing" FDs, like your GRX 810, but I would expect them to 
be wider than older friction only FDs, just to accommodate the fact that 
indexing front shifters can't trim. Either I'm the best home mechanic, or I 
got really lucky, in that when I set up my new-to-me c. 1990 Campy Croce 
d'Aune FD for 2x11 friction, I got it in just the right spot no not rub on 
the chain through the entire 11 speed range with the "big" ring (middle 
position of a 26-42-guard triple). I was fully expecting to have to trim as 
I ran the cassette. With my bar-end shifters and 9-speed, I would 
occasionally have to trim the FD as I used more of the cassette, but I 
shifted the FD a lot more with a triple than with my "one-by with bailout" 
setup.

Anyway, if you want to embrace full friction, a simpler, older FD may do 
the trick. A quick search on eBay for "Shimano 600 front derailleur" got 
quite a few for under $20. Ultregra was one time "600" then "600 Ultregra" 
so that's an easy search for older Ultegra-level equipment. Dura Ace has 
been Dura Ace for a very long time, but an older 8-speed or 9-speed era DA 
FD would be nice too, but for more money. I went with a Campy FD to go with 
my Mavic DT shifter so I could maximize the number of different brands in 
my drivetrain just to be a contrarian.

Drew

On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 6:15:52 PM UTC-7 Jay wrote:

> I've been riding my Roadini since February and it has been great, although 
> the FD seems less than ideal.  When I'm in the big ring, it works quietly 
> on only the few smallest sprockets.  When I'm the small ring, works quietly 
> on the 4-5 largest sprockets.  I'm often making minor adjustments to the 
> front DT shifter to line it up so there is no chain rub / noise.  I've 
> gotten used to this and it's not really a big deal, but I was thinking 
> there may be something I can do to improve things, and figured this group 
> knows friction!
>
>  The shop who built the bike is great, and everything was well done from 
> what I can tell, so my guess is the FD is set up as good as possible, and 
> maybe only a very minor tweak is required.  Perhaps it's just the specific 
> parts and how they work together (i.e., not a perfect system).  
>
> Before I try and make any adjustments myself I thought I would ask about 
> others' experience with friction shifting, front derailleurs, or perhaps 
> this specific from derailleur.  My success rate at fixing drivetrain issues 
> in the past is moderate...though it's not intuitive for me, and I have to 
> watch youtube videos to learn before doing anything.
>
> Other bikes I have/had are index, usually 105/Ultegra/GRX, and the front 
> derailleur wasn't noticeable, it just worked, quietly.
>
> The down tube shifters are Dia-Compe ENE Ciclo 11sp, front derailleur is 
> GRX 810.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>

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