@Joel,

One of the main reasons why I bought a Clem Smith Jr L bicycle is having no
difficulty in mounting and dismounting of my bike as a senior cyclist. I
found it difficult to swing my right leg over the back end of my former
bike.

The ride comfort of my Clem is steady and smooth as an elongated bike of 80
inches.

Worth considering IMHO.

Kim Hetzel.

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 6:42 PM Gordon Stam <gds...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Joel, maybe look into one of those Nitto 4 bolt face plate stems. I
> believe that the quill is just as long as the Technomic, or Tallux, at 225
> cm but the stem comes out at 90 degrees which gives you a few extra cm of
> height. A little geometry, or an online stem length/height calculator, will
> tell you how much.
>
> Concerning a step through for balance issue mitigation - I don't know.
> Maybe getting on is easier since you don't necessarily have to swing your
> leg over the saddle but when you stop the lack of a crossbar makes keeping
> the bike upright a little trickier. I got my Clem Jr. this spring (love it,
> actually) and that lack of a cross bar caught me out on a few occasions and
> I dropped the bike. I've since gotten used to it, sort of. That said youay
> be right, getting on and off might be easier if the balance is getting to
> be an issue. Good luck!
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 4:32 PM Kim H. <krhet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> @Joel,
>>
>> You are more than welcome.
>> I hope it works out very well for you.
>> Send some pictures to us herein would be nice, when you get it installed.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 2:39:15 PM UTC-7 J S wrote:
>>
>>> Kim,
>>> I’m with you on threadless, not for me. I think I found the same stem,
>>> maybe on Ben’s, Technomic XL or something like that.
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 2:05 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are more than welcome, Joel.
>>>>
>>>> So, in a nutshell, you are trying to find a way to get your handlebar
>>>> higher ? Right  ?
>>>>
>>>> After a long research on the internet, I found that long quill stem. I
>>>> was and remain very pleased with the outcome. I just couldn't cross the
>>>> threadless stem bridge as stubborn as I am from being old school. My bike
>>>> would not look right.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know what your decision choice is.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 10:56 AM J S <jrst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Kim, you’ve got that right and the miles get less and speed
>>>>> slower. But if I can still ride I am happy.
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 12:49 PM Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As we grow older, the gears get lower and the handlebars get higher.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 9:25:49 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Joel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bought a NITTO Technomic NTC-280 Stem
>>>>>>> <https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-technomic-ntc-280-stem-1> on
>>>>>>> my 58cm Nitto Bosco bars from Alex Cycles without going threadless. I am
>>>>>>> happy with it on my Clem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: thumbnail_20240111_143550.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-7 J S wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rich, thanks. A forum friend said he has a nitto steerer extender.
>>>>>>>> I am waiting for pics. He said it would give me up to 3” added height. 
>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>> might be the least expensive way ro go about this and solve the 
>>>>>>>> problem. I
>>>>>>>> am hoping it is feasible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hoping you are well and riding, my Hillborne seems to be the most
>>>>>>>> comfortable but the bars are 3cm higher than the saddle compares to the
>>>>>>>> Saluki and yes, I would like to Keep the Saluki if possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:25 AM RichS <rshann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Joel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One more suggestion, albeit more extreme than a stem change, would
>>>>>>>>> be to have a framebuilder replace the existing steerer tube with a 
>>>>>>>>> taller
>>>>>>>>> one.
>>>>>>>>> I guess that alternative would depend on how committed you are to
>>>>>>>>> keeping the Saluki. Good luck with whatever direction you choose. The
>>>>>>>>> mixtes you mentioned would be on my list as well if my septugenarian 
>>>>>>>>> body
>>>>>>>>> demands it at some point!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 3:20:56 PM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Erik, I did find both of those and either might be the
>>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 1:14 PM Erik Wright <erik.s...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joel,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Soma has a couple options. You could look at the 225mm rise
>>>>>>>>>>> Dirt Drop stem
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/nitto-stem-quill-mt-10-dirt-drop-225mm-slv-5647?category=983#attr=288,1136>
>>>>>>>>>>> for some more height, or the mega-tall 280mm rise Nitto Technomic 
>>>>>>>>>>> (25.4
>>>>>>>>>>> version for your Chocos/Albas
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/nitto-stem-technomic-quill-280mm-xl-25-4mm-4096?page=2&category=983#attr=4036>)
>>>>>>>>>>> for even more.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Getting a mixte would be pretty cool, but so would keeping your
>>>>>>>>>>> Saluki!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Erik, Philly
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 11:07:03 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the Nitto technomic stem is basically the Tallux
>>>>>>>>>>>> steel, 225 ht. I also believe this is the highest stem rise 
>>>>>>>>>>>> available. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have used these since I have gone to Albatross and Choco  bars. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a
>>>>>>>>>>>> frame 2 years ago and unknown to me at the time the steerer tube 
>>>>>>>>>>>> was cut,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the stem height is about 2.5-3 cm less than on my Sam Hillborne 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>> believe it is enough to aggravate my back, going from yesterdays 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ride. Any
>>>>>>>>>>>> suggestions? I may have to sell the much sought after Saluki 
>>>>>>>>>>>> frame. If I
>>>>>>>>>>>> did with advancing age, some balance issues I would be looking for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Willbury, Yves Gomes or a Cheviot as I like the shorter chainstays 
>>>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Saluki is a 54 cm, so about a 51 by todays models like my 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hillborne.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> would have to look at the effective TT lengths on any frame, not 
>>>>>>>>>>>> sure how
>>>>>>>>>>>> Riv sized these step throughs. All I would need would be the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ability to use
>>>>>>>>>>>> 42mm tires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone has any ideas I would be open to listen, or if anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> has any of the step throughs I have mentioned above they are 
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking to
>>>>>>>>>>>> sell or trade please let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joel
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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