I went back and forth with index and friction shifters and decided that I personally don't see the downside of index shifters. They always work good for me and generally seem less fidgety.
On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 6:33:47 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote: > I have had the same experience with the Silver shifters, as have others I > recall - some find their feel worth the tinkering, but I have changed my > bikes to Shimano SL-BS77's and am much happer with them - and I can choose > whether I want friction or index with the turn of a dial! > > On Thursday 18 July 2024 at 05:49:38 UTC-7 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ > wrote: > >> Leah >> >> you stated " I’m conflicted about the Silver shifters; they ghost shift >> and I don’t always hit the gears perfectly. I have Microshift on the red >> Platy and honestly, they do a better job. I know I should paint some >> Loctite on the wingnut.....". >> >> 1 question, 1 suggestion >> Was the Microshift barcons set up in friction or index? >> >> John Thurston on the iBob list has a 3D printed part for the SunTour >> barcons which replaces (with a nylock nut) the hex nut/screw plate >> arrangement SunTour used to tighten the shifter. His design holds the >> tightness and only requires a screwdriver to adjust the tightness. You may >> want to ask him if the Silver has a similar design. >> >> John Hawrylak >> Woodstown NJ >> On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 7:57:51 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >> wrote: >> >>> I feel I’ve finally gotten enough miles on the My Little Platy to trust >>> it. It feels really good and sporty and solid. I haven’t loaded it down as >>> I haven’t had cause, but I’m sure it would do fine. I’ve added a cerakoted >>> pink Racer basket from Analog, secured with aqua zip ties and then even got >>> a pink Voile strap (also Analog) I’ve employed as a safety strap for the >>> front rack. I think pink is outstanding on Ana Purple. I have lots of it >>> sprinkled on the bike and it really sets off the paint color. It is so >>> nice to have a more compact Riv to take if need be; I’m really lucky to be >>> able to fit 2 sizes. I still love the big 700c wheels on my other bikes, >>> but this more compact frame is fantastic - I can lift and turn it easily >>> without feeling like I’m wielding something ungainly. >>> >>> I’m conflicted about the Silver shifters; they ghost shift and I don’t >>> always hit the gears perfectly. I have Microshift on the red Platy and >>> honestly, they do a better job. I know I should paint some Loctite on the >>> wingnut but I’m reluctant because I don’t know how tight I want the nut to >>> be - too tight and it makes the lever really hard to push. Too loose and it >>> slips gears. Frustrating, considering the high praise these shifters have >>> received. >>> >>> I’ll send photos in a separate post. >>> Leah >>> >>> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:17:09 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown >>> NJ wrote: >>> >>>> Leah >>>> >>>> You stated wrt tires " Both bikes have Velocity Quills, set up >>>> tubeless, but the Racing Platy has 42mm Ultradynamicos and the My Little >>>> Platy has 48 mm Gravel Kings." >>>> If both bikes are 650B, then the Angular Moment of Inertia is slightly >>>> higher for the 48's (larger radius, tires weigh more), so the 48s >>>> accelerate a little slower vs the 42's >>>> If the 42's are 700C, the Moment of Inertia for the 42s is higher than >>>> a 650B (larger radius) and the difference in acceleration would be less. >>>> >>>> You stated wrt to front end shaking "The front end feels a bit shaky >>>> when I stand and pedal, another thing I don’t understand. These are >>>> Albatross bars and I have Billies on the others. Also, this bike has a >>>> front rack. Maybe that’s why." >>>> Both bikes have almost identical trail and wheel flop (assuming fork >>>> rake is the same since they are both stock Platy's) and the high flop >>>> causes side to side motion which is amplified by front weight. So if the >>>> other bike has NO front rack, then the "shakiness" may be the 'amplified" >>>> side to side motion. Not sure if you notice this only at low speed when >>>> climbing or when riding around the neighborhood at low speed (generally < >>>> 6 >>>> to 8 mph). High wheel flop is the downside of high trail. >>>> If the new bike bars have a shorter lever arm to the stem, then you may >>>> be overcompensating the side to side motion compared to the other bike >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. I think you did a superlative job on this new bike, >>>> figuring out everything in advance. >>>> >>>> John Hawrylak >>>> Woodstown NJ >>>> On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 8:55:44 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I’ve had so much fun putting the first 50 miles on my new bike. I love >>>>> looking at it and wish I could see it when I’m riding it. The spokes do >>>>> gleam in the sun as the wheels rotate, which thrills me. I don’t know >>>>> anything, but it feels to me like my 700c wheels are faster than these >>>>> 650b. I am not slow on them, but also I would never use this bike for a >>>>> club ride if my other Platy was in the shop. Both bikes have Velocity >>>>> Quills, set up tubeless, but the Racing Platy has 42mm Ultradynamicos and >>>>> the My Little Platy has 48 mm Gravel Kings. Maybe these things are the >>>>> real >>>>> differences, I don’t know. >>>>> >>>>> The bike is more compact and manageable but does not feel too small. >>>>> I’m so grateful for my 81 cm PBH, which allows me the flexibility to ride >>>>> both frame sizes. I have pretty heavy racks on the My Little Platy and >>>>> yet >>>>> the bike doesn’t feel THAT heavy. I bet it would feel light as a feather >>>>> if >>>>> I didn’t have fenders, racks, dyno and bags all over it. >>>>> >>>>> The Silver shifters are taking some getting used to. One wingnut >>>>> handle flops and the other stays in place. The shifting was like butter, >>>>> but when I tightened the nut (hoping to stop the handle flapping) it made >>>>> the lever difficult to move. So, I loosened it again and I’m having some >>>>> ghost shifting. On my red bike, I have Microshift and I never miss a >>>>> gear. >>>>> I can hit it perfectly, every darn time. Hoping I get the hang of these >>>>> shifters, because they come highly lauded. >>>>> >>>>> The front end feels a bit shaky when I stand and pedal, another thing >>>>> I don’t understand. These are Albatross bars and I have Billies on the >>>>> others. Also, this bike has a front rack. Maybe that’s why. >>>>> >>>>> At any rate, I have a lot to think about, fine tune and to learn. And >>>>> I’m having such fun in the process. >>>>> Leah >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2024, at 7:44 PM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So deep. I couldn’t stand putting a solid color on the spacer when I >>>>> saw so many oil slick option in 1 1/4 inch. Sure enough, the BMXers came >>>>> through with the 1 in for me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Wesley <brooks...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You know you're in deep when you're sourcing BMX parts to get the >>>>> look right. It's funny how the bike world is almost completely separated >>>>> between BMX and all other bikes - the brands, the language, and the parts >>>>> standards apparently have almost no contact across the divide. >>>>> -Wes >>>>> On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 3:51:53 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> IMO this ties with the other customized Platypus featured here >>>>>> recently for "nicest-looking Platypus in list history," and it probably >>>>>> wins the award for "most attention paid to aesthetics" in list history. >>>>>> Note: I think very many of the Rivs posted are lovely to look at. >>>>>> >>>>>> Me, as with Mitch, "I am a guy." I am fully OC about my bikes for >>>>>> parts and builds and design (I remember most of the parts from my first >>>>>> 1970 full build), but not aesthetics, and it's interesting to see how >>>>>> others' passions turn out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cerakoting is new to me; had to Google it. I see it differs from >>>>>> anodizing, but, how exactly? Too bad webmeisters are generally better >>>>>> fancy >>>>>> web page design than conveying information -- this for global corporate >>>>>> websites as well as bike websites; the latter on the whole do better. I >>>>>> gather that anodizing is colored (or not) oxidizing while cerakoting is >>>>>> a >>>>>> --- coating. >>>>>> >>>>>> One of the early links that DDG turned up said: "Anodized versus >>>>>> Cerakote: Which is better for your AR15?" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 9:56 AM Armand Kizirian <kiziria...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks super fun. Good to know Paul can anodize parts like that! Also >>>>>>> interested to hear how the different size rides for you. 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