hey Bill I am curious if you've ruled out chain problems sans any derailleur/tensioner? like have you seen if you experience the chain wanting to jump in a traditional singlespeed configuration where there is no derailleur/tensioner, and instead the chain is tensioned by pulling the wheel back in the track dropouts? perhaps also 2 or 3 variations of the amount of slack in the chain's tension for observation's sake
I would be inclined to try that as like a control group- maybe you already have, in which case definitely get a fancy purple ano part ˘ᵕ˘ -bk en ny On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 7:53:32 PM UTC-4 TP H wrote: > And your chainline is straight and not at an angle that would make it want > to roll off the freewheel I assume? > > On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 3:17:34 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> My first freewheel was a brand-new DOS ENO 16/19 and that was super bad >> in the stand with respect to wanting to climb up off the teeth. >> >> I've got lots of freewheels to experiment with, so that'll be on the >> list. >> >> On Thursday, September 26, 2024 at 2:57:36 PM UTC-7 Dan wrote: >> >>> >>> Have you been reading Bike Snob? He had the same skipping issue, and it >>> boiled down to a worn freewheel. It went away when the freewheel was >>> replaced. >>> On Friday 27 September 2024 at 04:24:29 UTC+9:30 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>>> My first instantiation of my 58cm RoadUno was as a 14-speed, as >>>> immortalized in Will's email update. I used my wheel set which has a >>>> customized 120mm O.L.D. cassette hub which fits 7 cogs from a 9 speed >>>> cassette, updated with 10-speed spacers on what was traditionally a >>>> 5-speed >>>> spaced rear hub. Naturally we call it 7of9with10on5. >>>> >>>> I had it set up that way for a Mount Diablo Summit, and having done >>>> that, I wanted to reconfigure it with the stock wheels for normal city >>>> use. >>>> I put the stock Saint Jump wheels on there, with a White Industries >>>> freewheel, using my Suntour rear derailleur as a tensioner. >>>> >>>> Pics prove it: >>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/54022678302/in/dateposted/ >>>> >>>> Problem was that in the stand, the chain was wanting to rise off the >>>> cog on my brand new DOS ENO freewheel. It was worse on the 19 than the >>>> 16, >>>> but clearly it wanted to rise off on both of them just pedaling. Weird. >>>> I >>>> attributed it in part to the goopy factory lube on a brand-new SRAM 870 >>>> chain, and lubed it up and went to bed. In the morning, I tried it out in >>>> the stand again and it was still riding up the cog. I went into my >>>> freewheel box and found a USED White Industries single freewheel, 18T, and >>>> fired that on. In the stand, that was perfecto, and that's what is in the >>>> photograph linked above. >>>> >>>> I rode down the hill that night to the local family grocery store for >>>> cilantro and few mushrooms for a soup. Turning back up the hill, >>>> DISASTER. >>>> Under load, the same riding up and skipping was happening. I took the >>>> most shallow slope back up the 400ft hill to my house, and put the bike up >>>> in the stand. >>>> >>>> I returned the 10-speed spaced chain on there, that I had been using >>>> with my 7of9with10on5 configuration, and rode that around the block. Same >>>> skipping under load. >>>> >>>> I called it a failure and put the 7speed rear wheel back on, which is >>>> still perfecto. >>>> >>>> My top hypothesis is that in a tensioner configuration, the system >>>> wants more tension from the tensioner than my 35 year old Suntour RD is >>>> providing. I may experiment with shortening the chain to the minimum >>>> length for the two-speed configuration. Some Suntour Rear Derailleurs >>>> have >>>> two different holes for the spring, so one can effectively make the spring >>>> a little stronger. That would be experiment #2. Finally, I may borrow >>>> the >>>> Paul Melvin from my 3x1 Romulus, to see if that's a far better tensioner. >>>> That Romulus 3x1 drivetrain has been perfect. For now it's a two speed, >>>> but it is running on the 18T cog of a 7sp cassette. >>>> >>>> Maybe this is all just the universe telling me to buy a purple anodized >>>> Melvin? >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3aea0a12-320e-4c38-95eb-903d1bc939dbn%40googlegroups.com.
