Fenders: I have the Berthoud/SKS (B/S) chromoplast fenders on my 700C Sam in 42mm, with Jack Browns: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4424231067/
I used drilled out sections from a teakwood dowel for spacers; works great: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4424231777/ (and following pics for more details) Like normal SKSs, the B/Ss have an L-bracket for the fork crown, and the fender L-bracket fit right onto the mounting bolt of my Nitto Mini Front rack. The front extension of the front fender is longer than a regular SKS, and really benefits from being attached to the Mini Front (w/ a spacer): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4424998004/ At the brake bridge, the B/Ss need to be drilled (I think?) and bolt on to the bridge with a single bolt through the fender (much cleaner than the sliding bracket; install fender at kickstand plate, install fender stays, then mark location of hole to be drilled at brake bridge, remove fender, tap marked spot with hammer and nail [to prevent drill bit from wandering], drill, replace fender). http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4424233671/ 50mm fenders will definitely fit, 60s only if they are actually more narrow, or are modified. Here are the clearances I measured on my 56cm Sam (roughly at the point where fat fenders would sit): Fork crown: 50mm Chain stays: 52mm Seat stays: 63mm I like the Berthoud/SKS, and will either buy them in 50mm for my Sam or my monstercross, or perhaps the zeppelin 52s from VO. The B/S 42s are perfect for Jack Browns or Pasela 35s, but I want to be able to run knobby 42mm tires as well under fenders. My assumption is that the Berthoud/SKS 50s can take slightly wider tires than the VO 52s because the VOs have a rolled edge, but the plain SKSs can probably take even wider (or taller) tires than the Berthoud/SKSs, because the Berthoud/ SKSs have bolts protruding into the underside of the fenders. If anyone has actual experience with the B/S 50s and the VO 52s, please let me know. It's possible that the VO 52 won't fit in the Sam fork w/ o modification, if the fender is true to size. Anyone try them on a Sam? BB: I am using the BB supplied by Rivendell. Works great with a Sugino XD-2. No idea what the actual width is. Cheers, Gernot On Jun 25, 2:58 am, Thomas Lynn Skean <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi, Patrick. Love your Hillborne pictures. Is that a Hebie double > kickstand mounted on it in one of the photos? Did it mount nicely to > the kickstand plate? > > When you say 60s are wide, are you talking about the Berthoud > stainless 60mm fenders in particular? > > With some fenders, I'd agree that 60mm would be wider than I'd want > for 40mm tires (and, partly thus, for the Hillborne). In fact, I've > used 45mm SKSs with my 700cX40 Nokian studded tires on my current > hybrid Trek without actual problems, though I switched to using 50mm > SKSs as soon as feasible after living with a slight buzz for a while. > The 50mm SKSs worked just fine sans buzz. And are probably as big a > fender as I'd ever need on the Hillborne. But it isn't clear that > Berthoud's are measured the same way as the SKSs. So I don't really > know what large-ish fender alternatives there are. > > And now Berthoud has a fender that looks better than the SKSs in the > pictures I've seen and is made of the same stuff (literally the SKS > chromoplastic). Which I like. I don't really know whether the same > size comparison issue exists for the chromoplastic Berthouds. Anyone > know? > > I don't even know whether I stainless steel, aluminum, or > chromoplastic fenders at this point. Is this what some folks go > through picking out napkins and such for a wedding? Forgive me, it's > my first Riv! > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > On Jun 24, 1:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 24, 12:31 am, Thomas Lynn Skean <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > (3) For you 700C-wheeled Sam owners: What if any fenders are you > > > > using? What tires? Any installation trickery required? How'd you > > > > attach at the fork crown? At the brake bridge? > > > > I used some 35 or 40 mm matt aluminum fenders on sale from Velo Orange and > > > made my own "L" shaped bracket for the front fender -- prefer this to a > > daruma. Use bolts instead of pop rivets which seem to come loose. At any > > rate, the fender is solid and fits fine over the 33 mm Jack Browns. > > > I think I read Riv saying that you can run up to 40s with fenders. > > > 60s are pretty darn wide; I use 60s in winter, sometimes, on my 29er and > > they are overkill IMO for 40s. > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
