Thanks everyone.. I had a great chat with Vince today and he patiently 
answered all my questions. Ultimately it comes down if I need more load 
carrying capacity - if yes, then perhaps Sam is a better choice.. which 
means I will have to import it from Blue Lug...I do not know how much any 
customs/duty will cost. Or simply try to snag a CHG and keep the loads on 
the bike to less than 15 lbs.. or n+1 bike:) 

By the way, Vince did say that ever since the NYer article came out about 
Riv & Grant, the interest in Riv has increased and possibly CHG might get 
sold within seconds..!


On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 6:19:40 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

>
> Hey, the Charlie looks like such a great bike - I'm thinking I might get 
> one on the next go-around. We have a Joe App and an Hilsen in our family 
> and we love them both. For what it's worth we bought our Joe through Analog 
> and it was a great experience - awesome people, awesome shop. Good luck! 
> Whatever you get, you're not gonna regret it.
>
> On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 2:11:53 PM UTC-4 Drew Fitchette wrote:
>
>> Hey G Ram! 
>>
>> Seconding Joe here, having had both the Atlantis and a Sam I'd say for 
>> what you're describing a Charlie or a Sam might be a better call. A Sam 
>> landing in between a Charlie and an Appa might be the best option as I ride 
>> mine on a lot of trails/gravel but it's zippy and fun on road rides too. 
>> The Atlantis/Appa feel a bit longer and more planted, super fun on 
>> trails/singletrack and handle full camping loads like champs. But maybe a 
>> little overbuilt for commuting/daily riding on mostly road, as Joe said. 
>>
>> Congrats on taking the plunge, you won't regret it! Here's a fun reference 
>> catalog <https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/model/rivendell-bicycle-works/> 
>> from Blue Lug if you haven't seen it.
>>
>> Drew Fitchette
>> Atlanta GA
>>
>> On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 1:04:22 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I'm 79pbh and would get a 53 Gallop. You might want to chat with Riv 
>>> about it because you can ride a 53 or 57 and the longer reach to pullback 
>>> bars on the 57 may work better for you. 
>>>
>>> Any of the 3 bikes you listed will work for your use case, the Appa may 
>>> be a tad overbuilt unless you find yourself loading up bags and/or bombing 
>>> down trails.
>>>
>>> As for waiting or jumping now, my advice is always to get the one you 
>>> really want. Paying a lot of bucks for a bike and later wishing you'd 
>>> gotten a different one isn't fun! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>> Clearlake CA 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 9:25:54 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in getting a Rivendell. With the Charlie H Gallop 
>>>> preorder coming up I am really tempted to go for it. My use case will be 
>>>> commuting and fun riding (mostly road) and light credit card touring (or 
>>>> supported tours).. Will CHP  (size 53) be a good fit for it? My PBH is 
>>>> 85cm 
>>>> (5' 9" tall). I have been thinking about either getting a AHH or Sam 
>>>> Hillborne but I will have to wait much longer as they are not due to 
>>>> arrive 
>>>> well into next year. Blue Lug has a Sam Hillborne frame in my size (54) - 
>>>> and Analog Cycles has a Appa as well. I am trying to decide which of these 
>>>> 3 options are worth pursuing.. Has anyone bought a frameset from BlueLug - 
>>>> is the importing process into US a hassle?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, very excited to join the Riv family
>>>>
>>>> G Ram
>>>>
>>>

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