Also technically, Rivs aren't designed for front loads even though they 
sell stuff to front-load them with. That's low-trail territory ably served 
up by other brands. 

Joe Bernard 

On Tuesday, November 12, 2024 at 1:52:41 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Sorry that sounded a bit rude and I'm not questioning you're experience if 
> you found it to not feel how you wish it to. Of course even with the same 
> trail number, different head tube angles will have a different feel - but 
> technically, the AHH has similar wheel flop. 
>
> On Tuesday 12 November 2024 at 13:05:44 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Have you ridden the AHH?  The trail between the two bikes is with 2mm or 
> so, so the "floppiness" should be indistinguishable between the two - Riv 
> pays close attention to mechanical trail, increasing fork offset when the 
> HTA is slackened.  Good to know they're the same tubing!  Kind of 
> surprising.  I know Grant would roll his eyes but I would love to see 
> accurate frame weights for each, just out of curiosity. 
>
>

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