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On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 2:31:06 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: > It's not that I'm a randonneur (just a busy working parent who rec rides > on weekends)... but having enjoyed front midsized rando bag for 17 years, > I've been so far into that kool-aid. Since I defeated my rando bike's > steering stability by raising the handlebars (+30mm) a smidge higher than > the seat (I have long legs, so everything gets taller)... I should probably > just let go of the front loading concept and try a Riv... because the > Roadini seems to suit all my other needs including designed for higher > cockpit/comfort. And a couple more cm wheelbase than a randonneur should > also help with general stability, particularly if I'm descending paved > rocky mtn/foothill roads where speed and tracking are non-trivial. > > I'm so let down, deflated, by the randonneur (a custom frame) getting > wonky with a raised stem. Stumbled across a blog post and commenters > confirming it's not just me, but a built-in design tradeoff that's not > often discussed. So... shopping a taller stack, upsloped TT sport'ish > touring'ish all'round road bike at stock (non-custom) price point, which > welcomes a tall quill stem... all roads point to Riv (or elsewhere?). > > I shouldn't be embarrassed (in this crowd) throwing money at a Roadini > frame when I haven't even been on a Riv (except for 10 mins on an Atlantis > 20 years ago), but admittedly that's what I'm doing. A bit of a hail mary > pass towards something truly long term sensible. > On Wednesday, November 13, 2024 at 7:37:39 AM UTC-5 DJC wrote: > >> Joe raises a valid point regarding front loading Rivendells -- front >> loads are best left to the low trail bunch. I have a Crust Lightning Bolt & >> Romanceur, plus a Cycles Toussaint for front loading and it's a perfect >> match. I was running a basket on my Atlantis and it worked fine, but it was >> definitely a bit "floppy" and I prefer the bike with just a rear load >> configuration. At the moment I have front rack + Sackville Trunk Bag on a >> Hillborne and I don't notice the wheel flop; granted, I keep the loads >> under 5lbs. >> >> On Tuesday, November 12, 2024 at 5:26:12 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> Also technically, Rivs aren't designed for front loads even though they >>> sell stuff to front-load them with. That's low-trail territory ably served >>> up by other brands. >>> >>> Joe Bernard >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 12, 2024 at 1:52:41 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry that sounded a bit rude and I'm not questioning you're experience >>>> if you found it to not feel how you wish it to. Of course even with the >>>> same trail number, different head tube angles will have a different feel - >>>> but technically, the AHH has similar wheel flop. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday 12 November 2024 at 13:05:44 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote: >>>> >>>> Have you ridden the AHH? The trail between the two bikes is with 2mm >>>> or so, so the "floppiness" should be indistinguishable between the two - >>>> Riv pays close attention to mechanical trail, increasing fork offset when >>>> the HTA is slackened. Good to know they're the same tubing! Kind of >>>> surprising. I know Grant would roll his eyes but I would love to see >>>> accurate frame weights for each, just out of curiosity. >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8b766504-de84-4688-b5ea-28bc454cc5b6n%40googlegroups.com.
