Now that I've had a better look at the Gallop vs Roadini I can see they are quite different bikes despite being initally very similar. The Gallop has a much longer top tube and chain stays, and the BB drop and head tube angle are also different. Interesting that the Gallop is lighter than the equivalent Roadini, I would have thought it was the other way around.
Dorothy - I LOVE your practical Roadinis! Where is that leather carry handle from? I hope the Charlie sticks around, I think it's a fun bike. On Monday, April 7, 2025 at 3:10:48 AM UTC+10 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I just have to wonder where most of these frames went. We’ve heard from so > few people who have purchased them! There was one that went for sale in the > Riv newsletter Friday and it’s gone. I’ve seen some ISO Charlie postings > and I direct them to Blue Lug, because they have most sizes in both colors > for sale. > > I recently heard someone compare his RB-1 to his Charlie: one was a fast, > light canoe vs a fast, springy kayak; it was not clear to me which bike was > which watercraft. > > There seems to be a mainstay line at Riv - Homer, Atlantis, Clem, Sam, > Appaloosa, and a mixte of some kind. Then there seems to be newer bikes > that don’t have the same longevity. The Gus/Susies, Roadini, RoadUno, Rosco > bikes… > > I am wondering to which line the Charlie will belong. It does not have a > huge fan base, and maybe it was meant to be a fun, one-time bike for road > riders. I hope not. I really like it so far. > > On Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 10:14:05 AM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote: > >> [image: IMG_3750.jpeg]Thank you Dan. I got this frame at the end of >> 2022, and when I bought the lugged late last year I decided to keep this >> one after moving its drop bar setup and Rich built Quill wheels to that >> one, and build a dyno wheel for the front, following Roman’s idea. I had >> Prowheelbuilder build a matching rear with a black Bitex RAR 12 hub in the >> back. This one is a lighter commuter, so good for the bus rack when I am >> not using the Metrolink train, and is also my rain bike because of the >> Cambium saddle, SKS fenders and pin equipped VP pedals. >> >> Here is a pic of the lugged Roadini >> >> On Saturday, April 5, 2025 at 7:58:02 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >>> 20.4 pounds. Tuned means I made it lighter than it was new. >>> >>> Bill Lindsay >>> El Cerrito, CA >>> >>> On Saturday, April 5, 2025 at 6:17:07 AM UTC-7 Richard Rose wrote: >>> >>>> Bill, what is your calculated/actual final weight on your Charlie? >>>> Also, what does “tuned XTR” mean? >>>> Thanks! >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Apr 5, 2025, at 8:39 AM, Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've probably disappointed some people because I spent a ton of time >>>> talking about my Gallop build and have spent zero time talking about my >>>> Charlie Gallop gallops. That's because I haven't ridden it yet. It's not >>>> laziness or neglect or a lack of wanting to ride it. It's my weird >>>> self-discipline. I have a mileage framework with rules I entirely made up >>>> for myself, and the consequence is that I won't ride the Gallop until I >>>> can >>>> insert it into the framework, and I can't insert it into the framework >>>> until I make a spot for it, and the way I make a spot is by riding each of >>>> my other bikes to its assigned mileage level. The punch-line is that I'm >>>> just a few days away from having a spot for Charlie in my riding framework >>>> and then stuff can begin. One of the first things I'll do is gallop the >>>> Gallop up Mount Diablo, perhaps as soon as next weekend. >>>> >>>> >>>> Meanwhile, independent from riding, there are always projects parading >>>> through my brain, and some of those thoughts end up happening in my work >>>> stand, and there is a real non-zero chance that Charlie is going to get a >>>> couple more unconventional tweaks. >>>> >>>> For those who missed the build, here's the album: >>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720322843646/ >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, Ca >>>> >>>> On Saturday, April 5, 2025 at 4:17:52 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Kat! I would have chosen the Roadini if the Charlie didn’t exist. >>>>> The Charlie is, in size 53, lighter in tubing. And I love a dropped tube. >>>>> Also the graphics and head badge and horses running along the chain stay >>>>> are just YUMMY. 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