On Sunday, May 18, 2025 at 7:29:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

OK, well here's some news, then:

The "pro tip" advice is to set your handlebar height so you ride most on 
your brake hoods, which should be mounted on narrow bars and angled inward 
to make the position even more aero. The hooks are for sprinting, and most 
"pro" bars have vestigial drops that don't appear to me to even have room 
for my small hands. 

I'm not going to speak for "some cyclists", just for myself. I set my 
handlebar tops close to even with the saddle top and use relatively deep 
drop bars. I can and do ride for hours at a time on the drops of my bars. I 
also, on most of my bikes, have the more aero position of putting forearms 
on the tops and hands over the top of the handlebar bag. I've been feeling 
validated about my setup as I've watched pro riders and triathletes raise 
their aero bars higher and higher in the last few years. I can't spend a 
full hour in that position (well, I could if I needed to), but it's a great 
option when going harder into the wind or when going slowly and I want to 
take weight off my hands or open up a snack that I just pulled out of that 
bag.

I spent a year and a pile of money on bars and stems trying to find an 
upright bar setup that allowed for the same range of motion and comfort as 
a Noodle bar. Sure, I could achieve a lower back position, but never in a 
way that was comfortable for more than a few minutes.  Upright bars have 
been great for the kind of riding I do on my Hubbuhubbuh. If those bikes 
and bars had been available back when I was making regular trips to Walnut 
Creek, I'm sure that's what we'd have happily ridden all over the hills. It 
just didn't work out for me on a single bike for the kind of riding I do 
most of the time.

YMMAPWV.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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