I've got three questions: 1. Who ever said sitting bolt upright is the winning strategy to beat headwinds? 2. What is it about drop handlebars that forces the rider to assume the most aerodynamic riding position possible on that bike? 3. What is it about upright handlebars that prevents the rider from assuming the most aerodynamic riding position possible on that bike?
My preemptive answers are: Nobody, nothing, and nothing. Ted's 16MPH threshold idea is that when he's moving through the air at less than 16MPH it makes very little difference. You riding 12MPH into a 20MPH headwind is you moving through the air at 32MPH, which is Ted's "drop bar zone". Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Sunday, May 18, 2025 at 3:23:04 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > Well, not so close, if you regularly ride into 20 or 25 mph headwinds. If > you maintain any forward momentum at all into a 20+ mph headwind, the type > of bike, or at least the shape, width, and position of the bar, makes a big > difference. > > Patrick “non-non-non-*non* racer” Moore, who finds a low tucked position > essential to having riding fun, very slowly, in windy ABQ, NM. > > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 3:14 PM Ted Durant <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On May 16, 2025, at 4:09 PM, Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote: >> If the data presented by the Original Poster is representative of the >> larger truth as it applies to essentially ALL of us UN-racers, then when it >> comes to speed, it does not matter one bit what bike you ride, provided you >> like it and it fits. >> >> Close, but the data only applies to riding at my commuting speed, which >> is a few mph slower than my recreational riding speed, and now commuting >> represents zero percent of my riding time. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d665e090-f139-4d11-9eb1-0405cc519a55n%40googlegroups.com.
