On Saturday, September 13, 2025 at 6:23:07 AM UTC-7 R Olson wrote:

As far as ride goes, the Roadeo and Crust are most similar.  The Roadini is 
in a different category.  The Crust has a lower BB, which I think moderates 
the ability to accelerate, but makes it very comfortable to ride. .... The 
Roadini is reminiscint of my Surly LHT actually.  It's heavier, more 
plodding, but extremely comfortable because of the super high stack and 
long wheelbase.  I rode it up and over Vail Pass and it was fine.  It was 
about 26 lbs. 


The lower BB on the Crust grants you a longer chainstay, which does reduce 
the responsiveness to hard efforts. The Roadini has an even longer 
chainstay (45cm), which decreases the responsiveness even further. Having 
said that, I got my 55cm Roadini down to 10.18kg (22 pounds), and took it 
on a credit card tour this weekend (photos link: 
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/8mdChvXpQmq82T18TJOwOw.tslzytrIqXahDLrxvw6js0)
 
and it rode great, except for a section where I had to stand up for an 
extended time on a 14% grade. On a tour you aren't not actively sprinting 
and trying to stay in the draft of a group so it doesn't matter as much. 
Neither is that responsiveness important on a long solo ride where you're 
not actively sprinting.

If I were to build a custom road bike I'd go for lighter tubing than the 
Roadini uses, drop the BB another 5mm, and reduce the chainstay length by 
1cm or so (44 or 43.5cm chainstay). Then it would be an ideal "do 
everything" road bike.

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